[NSRCA-discussion] Safety Proposal amended

[Scott McHarg]

I'd like to see it as well Earl.  This was verbatim from Derek Koopowitz.
I had to rely on him because what I originally wanted to say in public, I
ran passed Derek and he said that was not the case.  He said you may use a
disarm plug but that did not satisfy the FAI requirement to display
disconnected batteries.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:09 PM, ehaury <ejhaury at comcast.net> wrote:

> **
> Scott
>
> Where do you find this interpretation?
>
>  "A disarm plug is NOT allowed to demonstrate a disconnect - there has to
> be a physical disconnect of the wiring and must be seen by an official."
>
> This was not the case for the 2011 WC. I participated in the TM meeting
> where it was initially stated that both battery leads would need to be
> disconnected. After some discussion the jury, ED & TD (me) determined that
> one lead was sufficient and it didn't matter if it was internal or
> external. Most of the E competitors made the connect / disconnect
> internally, often with the person doing it exposed to the prop arc. Models
> were also removed from the runway, so as not to impede the next competitor,
> before making the EoF disconnect (before returning to the pits). I was one
> of the officials watching for this.
>
> If the quoted interpretation is official, then so be it - but I'd like to
> see the publication.
>
> Earl
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com>
> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:27 PM
> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] Safety Proposal amended
>
> With a passing vote of the NSRCA BoD, we respectfully submit to you the
> new Safety Proposal.  Essentially, the Safety Proposal that is currently
> with the AMA is being retracted and two new proposals put in its place.
>  The first one is simply the Fail-safe proposal that was part of the
> submitted Safety Proposal.  Then, the second new proposal will replace
> 6.9(a) as 6.9.1 and *directly quoted and out of the current FAI Sporting
> Code*.  The referred section is on page 16 in 5.1.11 of the FAI Sporting
> Code for 2012.  Please note that in FAI, in order to follow the rule, the
> disconnect must happen right after landing before the helper picks up the
> plane.  A disarm plug is NOT allowed to demonstrate a disconnect - there
> has to be a physical disconnect of the wiring and must be seen by an
> official.  Interesting huh!
>
> Before anyone says it, I disagree that the arming plug does not constitute
> a physical break in the wiring.  Through some consideration and advice from
> people that have run the Worlds, the plug is external and does not
> constitute proof that the physical connection internally has happened.
>  That's the FAI rule.  As submitted, that part is *not* written into the
> proposal.  It is simply the direct quote from the FAI Sporting Code.  Here
> is the exact verbiage of the new proposals as submitted to the AMA.  I
> don't know when AMA will get the physical proposals up on their site.
>
> *New Proposal for 6.9*
>
> 6.9 – Propeller safety - All contestants using radio equipment with a
> failsafe function shall be able to demonstrate that propeller rotation will
> either stop or reduce to an idle RPM when the transmitter is powered down
> while the aircraft receiver system is powered on.  Idle RPM for this
> purpose is defined as an RPM during which the model will remain stationary
> when already motionless.
>
> *New Proposal for 6.9.1*
>
> 6.9.1 – For electric powered models, the electric power circuit(s) must
> not be physically connected, before the starting time is begun and must be
> physically disconnected immediately after landing.
>
> --
> *Scott A. McHarg*
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