[NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposals

[Vicente "Vince" Bortone]

Hi Mike, 

  

The limit has to do with the international competition limit for RC model airplanes that is 5 Kg.  I learned this in a good way the first time I went to the Nats and visit the museum.  During the visit a curator approached us and offer to give us a tour which was great.  During the tour he got a call from a guy claiming that he broke the altitude record with RC sailplane.  Guess what was the first question he asked:   Is your sailplane below 5 Kgs ?  Then of course he asked: what altitude you got?  He said that there was another record better than that and the sailplane is been displayed in the museum.  I know now that there is only one exception to this rule for the scale international competition which is higher but I don't remember the exact number.  How the 5kg was selected by FAI ?  I don't know.  Probably easy to transport from one country to another could be the very first reason.   
  
Best, 
  
Vicente "Vince" Bortone 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael S. Harrison" < drmikedds @ sbcglobal .net> 
To: "General pattern discussion" < nsrca -discussion at lists. nsrca .org> 
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 1:59:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [ NSRCA -discussion] Rules Proposals 

With all the greatest respect to your opinion, I believe the current weight 
rule is comparable to requiring only a certain type of paint be allowed on 
an airplane.  It simply has no bearing on anything we do in pattern.  There 
are still certain limits to the weight in place with this new rule and it is 
simply modified to allow some breathing room for us all.  I have planes that 
are not legal because someone thinks 11 pounds is the proper weight.  What 
is the scientific basis for that limit?  It is certainly not safer, it does 
not cost more, in fact the 11 lb limit issue has become absurdly expensive. 
I applaud the NSRCA for stepping up to make this change. 
Mike 

-----Original Message----- 
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:03 PM 
To: General pattern discuss 
Subject: Re: [ NSRCA -discussion] Rules Proposals 

I second what Stuart is saying here. I've kept my mouth shut just observing 
throughout all this discussion mainly because I'm not a member of the NSRCA . 
Why am I not a member? I can't remember the last time the NSRCA represented 
my interests. To propose a weight rule change is a huge mistake. Hopefully 
the contest board has better sense (and experience) than the NSRCA 
leadership. Being the AMA-recognized special interest group for Pattern is a 
huge responsibility. Changes to what we do should not be taken lightly, nor 
should they be left up to a 50% + 1 vote on a website. Sometimes leadership 
and experience need to step in and stand up to those who are barking the 
loudest about not being able to make weight. In this instance, the squeaky 
wheel doesn't necessarily deserve the grease. Well, whetever . It's not like 
I would just stop flying pattern if a weight increase was passed, but I 
think it would tarnish the image of pattern. Perhaps irrevocably. Once a 
change like this happ 
 ens, it cannot ever be taken back. Let's say 2 - 3 years from now as 
battery technology continues to improve (because let's face it, the only 
people who want weight limit increases are electric guys), and the batteries 
get lighter and lighter, you may have now given electric planes an 
advantage. Rules are already in place to allow anyone to try pattern without 
needing to make weight. Rules were recently passed to allow the lower 
classes a variance so that they get a little leeway as they move up. Leave 
things alone, and the technology will catch up to the rules, as it always 
has in the past (2-stroke to 4-stroke migration). 

Matt 

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