[NSRCA-discussion] 2012 NATS Update

Thu Jul 12 06:56:47 AKDT 2012

Have the person administering the exam take their $5 - cash, check, EBT
card, used glow plugs, whatever - right there on the spot.  Then the admin
just uses his own Paypal and pockets the cash.

Keith Hoard
Collierville, TN
khoard at gmail.com

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Earl,
>    The only issue with that would be if someone pays by e-check instead of
> a credit card through PayPal.  The e-checks take several days to clear and
> the system cannot allow the user to take the exam until the e-check
> clears.  If they pay via credit card, that wouldn't be a problem.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM, ehaury <ejhaury at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Why not just have a PC available Sunday that folks can use to certify
>> online? Maybe someone to help with the process?
>>
>> Earl
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net>
>> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> ;
>> jonlowe at aol.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:36 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2012 NATS Update
>>
>> I am not against having a certification meeting, if someone wants to step
>> up and give it.  We have a room we can use if needed.
>>
>> Archie
>>
>>
>>
>> *On Thu 07/12/12 9:31 AM , jonlowe at aol.com sent:
>> *
>>
>> **Thanks. Good to know.
>>
>> However the front page of the Nsrca site also talks about a certification
>> meeting after registration on Sunday afternoon.
>>
>> Jon
>> --
>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>> Scott McHarg **wrote:
>>>
>>> Jon,
>>> As far as non-NSRCA members are concerned (and solely for future
>>> reference), one does not need to join the NSRCA in order to create a User
>>> ID and password for the site.  That doesn't help "right now" but that part
>>> is not an issue.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> On Jul 12, 2012 8:21 AM, <jonlowe at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Arch,
>>>> While this doesn't affect me, the letter you sent out with the
>>>> registration confirmation says that judging certification is on Sunday on
>>>> the schedule of events on the first page. Many Nsrca members are not on
>>>> this list. How are they supposed to know there isn't a certification
>>>> meeting? Since it is in the official material, looks like a protest in
>>>> waiting. Further, there is nothing that says you have to be an Nsrca member
>>>> to fly in the Nats. How do they get certified if they can't get a user name
>>>> and password for the Nsrca site? IMHO it is way too late to change what the
>>>> official mailing stated.
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>>
>>>> Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The 2012 NATS are quickly approaching and I wanted to send out a final
>>>>> update.  Derek Koopowitz has created a site that will be the center for
>>>>> NATS updates.  On this site you can get all of your information as well as
>>>>> see the overview of what is going on.  You will notice a few things that
>>>>> are slightly different this year.  We are going to try a few things and see
>>>>> what happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, for anyone flying Masters, you will notice the flight orders
>>>>> are different than the past.  In previous years, the groupings were
>>>>> established and you were stuck flying in front of, or behind the same guy
>>>>> all 6 rounds.  This year, we have used the grouping as always, but since
>>>>> each day is a new contest, we combined the two groups on a site that day.
>>>>> This allows guys in their same group to call for each other, without having
>>>>> that person be directly behind them.  It also will allow people to follow
>>>>> and be in front of different pilots each day.  Your flight order inside
>>>>> your group is essentially unchanged, but there will be someone from the
>>>>> other group between pilots in a group for the most part, except when one
>>>>> group is smaller than the other.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second, we are going to try something new for the judging of the
>>>>> finals.  This is not on that sheet, as we haven't created the finals
>>>>> judges, but after talking with Earl Haury, our plan is to identify ideally
>>>>> 25+ judges for a pool.  This will allow us to have judges for both Masters
>>>>> and FAI, but never having a judge have to judge the same sequence twice.
>>>>> We will use 5 Masters judges, 10 FAI judges, and 2 zero judges for the
>>>>> unknowns.  The plan would be that a judge would just 1 round of Masters and
>>>>> 1 round of FAI, either an unknown or a known.  Obviously, with only 25
>>>>> judges and above parameters, a few judges would end up judging a round of
>>>>> Masters, a round of known, and a round of unknown.  This will keep people
>>>>> from having to be on the Masters site more than 1 round, and also, help
>>>>> with the problem in the past of guys judging rounds of Masters back to
>>>>> back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Third, there will be no judges certifcation this year on site.  With
>>>>> the ability to do this online, it eliminates the need to have one on site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next, you will notice that we are still short judges on Wednesday.  If
>>>>> you are willing to step up and judge a second time, please let me know so
>>>>> that we can begin to fill in some of these holes. In previous years, we
>>>>> have had to scramble on site to locate more judges, but we are hopeful that
>>>>> by putting this information out early that a few people will volunteer to
>>>>> fill these slots prior to being on site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, please buy your banquet tickets EARLY.  This year, it will be on
>>>>> the AMA site at the McCullough room, which is located adjacent to the
>>>>> museum.  It is being catered by Johnny Corrino's and we will have a choice
>>>>> of the different types of pasta as well as salad and a dessert.  We will
>>>>> have an open CASH bar on site as well.  Banquet tickets will be only
>>>>> $15.00.  We will have an open CASH bar on site as well.  At the banquet
>>>>> this year, since it is on Wednesday, we will hand out Intermediate, and
>>>>> Advanced awards in front of everyone.  FAI, and Masters finalists, will be
>>>>> announced, flight orders drawn, and the unknowns will be handed out to the
>>>>> FAI pilots.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to say a huge thank you to everyone who has helped put all this
>>>>> together.  I can not thank Scott Smith enough for the job he has done
>>>>> developing a new scoring software which made this all possible.  Not only
>>>>> does it continuously keep score for Masters and FAI, even with the Matrix,
>>>>> but it also is capable of creating flight orders, and the judging matrix.
>>>>> This will be an incredibly valuable tool, even on a local level.  Scott did
>>>>> all of this purely as a volunteer and I have no idea how many hundreds of
>>>>> hours of his own time he devoted to this.  By using his software, as soon
>>>>> as a round is complete, even if Masters and FAI, we can export the file as
>>>>> a .pdf and Pete Cosky will then load it on to the NATS website on the NSRCA
>>>>> page.  Our goal is within 30 minutes to 1 hour of the conclusion of flying
>>>>> that the scores will be posted on this site.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, now for the disclaimer.  This site is still technically not
>>>>> finished.  We could have pilots drop out and such, and may need to fill
>>>>> holes.  Please use this site as a reference only, and please verify once
>>>>> you are on site that nothing for you has changed.  Also, you will notice,
>>>>> as this site is on a public page, that my cell phone and Pete's cell phone
>>>>> are X'd out. On your pilot packages, our numbers will be printed, so anyone
>>>>> needing to reach us once in Muncie will have that opportunity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the link to the site.
>>>>> http://nsrca.us/index.php/nats2012
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Be safe on your travels, and we will see everyone next weekend in
>>>>> Muncie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Archie Stafford
>>>>> 2012 Pattern NATS Event Director
>>>>>
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