[NSRCA-discussion] Falcon Carbon Fiber Electric Props

[Budd Engineering]

I, and others who currently advertise, already have the incentive we need, we feel that there's value in doing so, otherwise we wouldn't spend the money.  Giving it away for free wouldn't provide ANY incentive to those who currently don't advertise to start doing so in the future, and if it were to happen it would actually de-incentivize those of us who currently do.  It's exactly the situation going on in the Federal Gov't right now, it's bad economic policy, it's bad social policy (see how happy everyone is about this topic now), and it's bad for business.  I'm sure other's will have their opinions, but that won't change the harsh reality of it all.

Like I said earlier, my opinion doesn't seem to count here as I'm just a paying advertiser...  Any other advertisers want to chime in here, feel free, this horse is about dead from my point of view.

Jerry

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On Jul 6, 2012, at 5:40 AM, "Ron Hansen" <rcpilot at wowway.com> wrote:

> Isn't getting more advertising opportunities an incentive to continue to
> advertise????
> 
> i.e., more bang for your buck?
> 
> Your logic would suggest NO.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Engineering
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 8:19 AM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon Carbon Fiber Electric Props
> 
> F3A Unlimited already advertises in the K-Factor (as do several others,
> myself included).  Giving away free advertising isn't an incentive, it's
> retail welfare.  All we want is a level playing field to market our products
> on, giving away to someone else what I and others already pay for doesn't do
> that, nor will it do so in the future.
> 
> Besides, there's other, better, web-based ways to get new product/ad info to
> interested members quickly that the NSRCA could provide to advertisers for a
> profit.  However, it costs $$ to make $$, and running NSRCA like a business
> is difficult with limited budgets and a near-requirement that most if not
> all jobs be filled by volunteers (a BIG "Thank You" to them BTW!!).
> 
> Jerry
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:07 AM, "Ron Hansen" <rcpilot at wowway.com> wrote:
> 
>> You would monitor it just like we monitor it now (someone complains to
>> the officers they investigate and the officers take the proper
>> actions).  If someone is found abusing the NSRCA list then the
>> officers can temporarily or permanently remove them from the list.
>> 
>> Don't we want to incentives advertisers like F3A Unlimited to
>> advertise either on our website, K-Factor and/or mailing list???
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Budd
>> Engineering
>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:06 AM
>> To: General pattern discussion
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon Carbon Fiber Electric Props
>> 
>> Not attacking anyone here but do you (or anyone for that matter) want
>> to be the one tasked with monitoring and enforcing that?  What if it
>> was once a month? Or was only allowed for "new product announcements"? 
>> It's really not such a good idea, as an advertiser on the K-Factor I
>> fully understand why Chris took the position he did as he has a lot
>> invested in his business.  I also understand that Ron was really just
>> trying to offer up something to help some people out, not trying to cut
> into others business sales.
>> 
>> I ran into a similar situation a few years back when a competitor (who
>> ran maybe 1 or 2 business sized ads a year in the K-Factor) sent in a
>> letter to one of the District VP's reminiscing about the passing of
>> one of the good ol boys from the 90's pattern scene and then spent the
>> rest of his letter shamelessly promoting his product (the word count
>> ratio was about 10% reminiscing to 90% product promotion).  It was
>> basically a free advertisement thinly disguised as a letter to the Editor.
>> 
>> At the time I had run monthly 1/4 page ads in the K-Factor
>> uninterrupted for something 6-7 years in a row.  When I complained to
>> the K-Factor ad manager at the time about the unfairness of what had
>> happened, the response I got was along the lines of "well you can do the
> same thing, we'll publish it".
>> I wasn't particularly happy with that answer and decided then and
>> there (much like Chris did earlier today), to vote with my checkbook
>> and cut way back on my advertising.  My point is simply this, if you
>> want people to advertise in the K-Factor, then you have to approach it
>> from a professional,
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