[NSRCA-discussion] Falcon Carbon Fiber Electric Props

Fri Jul 6 04:04:36 AKDT 2012

All of the ones I've seen, including the one on my web site (that I choose not to use because I dislike SPAM myself) are built into the shopping cart software and don't cost anything at all.

Lots of companies use it, even in the R/C industry: Chief Aircraft, Horizon Hobby Dist., Hacker USA, HobbyLobby, just to name a few (I think even F3A Unlimited has a web-based feature allowing customers to sign up for eMail specials, announcements, etc.), so if you like getting promotional-related eMails, even from pattern suppliers, you don't have to look far.

I just don't see why NSRCA needs to get involved in this, especially when the central issue is having the organization provide free advertising via eMail to some companies that don't necessarily advertise in the K-Factor.  Wouldn't it be better to provide an incentive to get the companies that you suggest would benefit from free promotional eMails to instead actually spend some money on advertising (it's really not much of an expense to place an ad considering the target market you're reaching).  Not to politicize this but having one entity get something for free that someone else is having to pay for isn't just a bad idea in Washington DC, it's a really bad idea most places, here included!

JMHO as someone who has spent a LOT of $$$ advertising in the K-Factor over the years...

Jerry

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On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:10 AM, "Ron Hansen" <rcpilot at wowway.com> wrote:

> That would be at the advertiser's expense (e.g., Constant Contact
> subscription) and may require an upgrade to their website another expense.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Budd
> Engineering
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:09 AM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon Carbon Fiber Electric Props
> 
> My suggestion then is for the supplier to offer the customer the ability to
> sign up for direct eMail advertising/mailers to the customer, no need for
> NSRCA to sponsor/provide that capability...
> 
> Jerry
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:39 PM, "Robert L. Beaubien" <rob at koolsoft.com> wrote:
> 
>> Amen!  I, for one, have no problem getting emailed specials and new
>> products from k-Factor advertisers.  Once a month works for me even. 
>> I want to know what is new out there when it happens, not 2 months
>> later when I get my k-factor.
>> 
>> - Robert Beaubien
>> - D7 Webmaster
>> -
>> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron
>> Hansen
>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:20 PM
>> To: 'General pattern discussion'
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon Carbon Fiber Electric Props
>> 
>> Why don't we let those who advertise in the K-Factor also advertise on
>> a limited basis using the mailing list.
>> 
>> Maybe 4 times per year???
>> 
>> That would make it even more attractive to advertisers.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bob
>> Richards
>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:06 PM
>> To: General pattern discussion
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon Carbon Fiber Electric Props
>> 
>> This whole thing has devolved into something unfortunate.
>> 
>> Ron, I believe you acted with good intentions, but the rule, as has
>> been pointed out, is clear. However, I think you have been chastised
>> more than enough.
>> 
>> The overall reaction, although there is no rule against that, has been
>> IMHO excessive. C'mon, guys, does anyone think Ron wasn't acting as a
>> pattern dude wanting to help others? There are probably not too many
>> people here that have done as much to promote this hobby for as long
>> as he has.
>> 
>> When I was active in pattern, it was the camaraderie that I looked
>> forward to, not the banter of rules and "I'm going to take my ball and
>> go home".
>> When did things change?
>> 
>> JMHO.
>> 
>> Bob R.
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 7/5/12, Ronald Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I was trying to help out pilots who were having trouble getting their
>> airplanes below the 5000 gram limit that will be rigorously enforced
>> at the Nats.  The tremendous weight saving of using the Falcon CF
>> props could help them a lot.  I also thought the widespread use of
>> Falcon CF props at the Nats would boost everyones' sales of Falcon
>> props.  I should not have mentioned the price.
>> 
>> 
>> However, due to the adverse reaction which has erupted, I will no
>> longer be bringing Falcon props to the Nats to sell.
>> 
>> 
>> Ron Van Putte
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Phil S. wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It looked to me more like a pattern dude trying to help fellow pilots
>> than an "ad" for a retailer.  Just MHO...
>> 
>> 
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