[NSRCA-discussion] Aresti Question

[Jon Carter]

Doug, thanks for the tip. I will look into it. I too would rather not make any changes to "standard" Aresti.

Jon Carter

Doug Cronkhite <seefo at san.rr.com> wrote:

>There's no need. Unless they've been removed from the software there is
>another type of roll arrow with a doubled 'head' on it. In IAC this
>denotes a super-slow roll, but could be adapted for pattern use. It may
>not be in the catalog anymore. Check the glider symbology. It might
>still be there. 
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Dec 14, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> I would prefer to stick to true Aresti versus making it.
>> 
>> 
>> Jon Carter <joncarter60 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I can do that but it is non-standard.
>> 
>> Jon Carter
>> 
>> Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We can make a diagram or maneuver look however you want it.  It's
>not super easy but it can be done.  The software allows us to design
>our own maneuver or use templates.  There are some other experts out
>there that are better than I am with the Aresti software.  What you ask
>for can be done however.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net>
>wrote:
>>>> Scott,
>>>> I know you are reading this.
>>>> In the standard Aresti s/w we have, can you add new maneuvers, such
>as a roll with an "S" where the "4" would be for a four point? Of
>course we would get some folks doing five point rolls and wondering
>what the zero  was for. :)
>>>> John
>>>> On 12/14/2012 12:58 PM, J N Hiller wrote:
>>>>> Yes I know. Would it be possible for us to deviate from IAC by
>adding
>>>>> another similar but different symbol to identify a slow roll.
>>>>> The rest of the sequence is well defined in the Aresti diagram
>without the
>>>>> written description. Its always been this way. Does it need to
>continue? If
>>>>> so I submit and will continue to reference both. Not a problem.
>Just
>>>>> requires both.
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Jack
>Keiser
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:37 AM
>>>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Aresti Question
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is no "slow roll" in IAC. The roll rate is not specified but
>is
>>>>> usually about 1-2 sec/360 deg. Slower rolls use up too much box
>and you're
>>>>> usually struggling  to stay in the box. Varying roll rate and
>heading and
>>>>> pitch changes are the usual downgrades.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:35, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>> To my knowledge, the answer is no. In Aresti a roll is a roll is
>a roll.
>>>>>> In the case of this unknown, Scott McHarg designed the pattern
>for us and
>>>>> provided scoresheets as well as the Aresti. The scoresheet
>identified that
>>>>> roll on a horizontal line as a slow roll.
>>>>>> I don't know any other way.  Aresti for Sportsman and Advanced
>shows the
>>>>> same roll but the descriptions differ.
>>>>>> John
>>>>>> On 12/14/2012 10:31 AM, J N Hiller wrote:
>>>>>>> I'll ask here because others may be interested.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I got impatient waiting fore the November K-Factor and began
>reading the
>>>>>>> E-version.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Following the "Rocky Mountain Fall pattern Challenge Unknown
>Sequence"
>>>>>>> Aresti diagram #7 I assume is a slow roll but the roll symbol is
>the same
>>>>>>> for an aileron roll. I don't know that IAC flies two different
>roll
>>>>> rates.
>>>>>>> Is there any way to identify these two different rolls in the
>diagrams we
>>>>>>> use?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jim Hiller
>>>>>>> 
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