[NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposals

[Phil S.]

Ron, will it still work after 12-21-12, when the sudden magnetic polar 
reversal will disrupt all toilet flushing, such that our CC-wise 
flushing will become CW, and vice-versa?  Also, does this rule mean that 
we will have to re-magnetize our motors (NOT engines!!) manually rather 
than automatically after 12-21-12?  Inquiring "minds" want to know...

On 4/23/2012 5:44 PM, Ronald Van Putte wrote:
> I've just added an arming plug assembly to my Vanquish.  It has the 
> added feature of having the ability to minimize the coriolis 
> acceleration due to precession of the earth and it self adjusts for 
> latitude.
>
> Ron
>
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Scott McHarg wrote:
>
>> Only if you use a disarming plug and/or bore another hole in the side 
>> of your fuse.  I heard something along the lines of the "Hoarder 
>> Policy" being written as we speak but only after a survey has been 
>> presented.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Keith Hoard <khoard at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:khoard at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     I just added some down thrust to my plane, is that illegal?
>>
>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>     On Apr 23, 2012, at 15:54, James Oddino <joddino at socal.rr.com
>>     <mailto:joddino at socal.rr.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>     Scott, I don't want to beat this to death but you must be very
>>>     careful.  I could interpret this to disallow Contra Drive prop
>>>     set ups that automatically cancel the effects of spiral
>>>     slipstream, torque, gyroscopic precession and P-Factor.  What
>>>     about adding aerodynamic appendages that improve stability and
>>>     damping?  It is not clear why the aerodynamicist should should
>>>     be given an advantage over the power management guy or the
>>>     electronics guy.  I'll never understand why the variable thrust
>>>     alignment system was disallowed.
>>>
>>>     I don't really care what is decided, but if the rule is not well
>>>     defined it will cause turmoil and new guys thinking about
>>>     getting into pattern won't like it.
>>>
>>>     Jim
>>>
>>>     On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Scott McHarg wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Good Afternoon,
>>>>        First, let's agree that "Engine managment" was not a correct
>>>>     term that we derived from the "old days" and we will fix that
>>>>     (per John Fuqua) assuming it passes the initial vote.  Second,
>>>>     let's not lose sight that we are speaking about telemetry and
>>>>     we are speaking of automated functions here, not those that
>>>>     require direct and manual input.  The wording is such that
>>>>     engine management systems that COORDINATE (through telemetry
>>>>     and read: automatically adjust) power output (to maintain a
>>>>     speed or anything that may relate to) with model performance,
>>>>     position, or attitude.  Honestly, this is no different than a
>>>>     gyro correcting attitude and we certainly don't want to allow
>>>>     that.  We simply are trying to allow telemetry that is
>>>>     important for safety and continue to dis-allow anything that
>>>>     automates flying the aircraft.  In my very humble opinion and
>>>>     to answer your question; Yes, I think we do want to outlaw
>>>>     something that makes our models fly better IF it is automated
>>>>     and not pilot-induced.
>>>>
>>>>     On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:10 AM, James Oddino
>>>>     <joddino at socal.rr.com <mailto:joddino at socal.rr.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         What does it mean?  Electric motors change the power as a
>>>>         function of the load applied.  For a given throttle setting
>>>>         the motor will draw more current as the model is pulled
>>>>         vertical for instance.  Is the rule trying to prevent that
>>>>         or prevent an improvement in its ability to do that?  Is it
>>>>         trying to outlaw braking or variable pitch props?
>>>>
>>>>         The question we should ask is; do we really want to outlaw
>>>>         anything that might make our models fly better?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>         9. Engine management systems that coordinate power output
>>>>>>         with model performance, position, or
>>>>>>         attitude."
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>     *Scott A. McHarg*
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