[NSRCA-discussion] No telemetry rule & new radio systems

Bob Richards bob at toprudder.com
Thu Nov 24 09:05:23 AKST 2011


I did not mean it to sound like it is pilot against judge. I'm just saying that it is unfair to be judged on something that the pilot can't see. The judge and the pilot should see the same thing from the same perspective. 
 
Take for instance the judging criteria for looping maneuvers in IAC competition. The judges inherently can't see the same perspective as the pilot, but they do judge only the things that the pilot has the abiltiy to see and control from the cockpit. For instance they do NOT judge constant radius, but instead judge constant rate of pitch change. The pilot has no way to see or fly a constant radius. 
 
In judging pattern, if the judges have the information available to know that the plane drifted in/out 10' from one end of a slow roll to the other then they would be inclined to downgrade. I doubt most people would even be able to tell from the pilots perspective that anything had drifted. It would frustrate the heck out of me if I flew what looked like a perfect manuever only to be downgraded by something I have no way of seeing.
 
Bob R.


--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Michael S. Harrison <drmikedds at sbcglobal.net> wrote:









Bob,
I respectfully disagree.  It is not a judging competition or a competition between pilot and judge, it is a flying competition to determine who flies the most perfectly.  The judges job is to determine objectively who has done that.  I suggest that the judge use any means possible to do that and that includes all reasonable technology.  To say that a judges have an advantage the pilot does not have is not an issue because it is not about judges vs pilots, it is about how perfectly the pilot flies the airplane.  If this can all be determined by some form of technology that is totally objective, then by all means we must embrace that.  the rules are to determine what tools the pilot have at his disposal to fly.  
 
I suggest the pilot already has too many tools at his disposal.  It is important that the pilot have tools to protect his equipment and fly safely, but I suggest that we have, in a sense, reduced our piloting skills to more of techno skills.  All the complex programming etc that goes into flying today makes the differences in piloting almost mute.  I would like to see the caller restricted as well.  It is about the best pilot, not the best caller.  I would like to see the rules made so that the caller is allowed to call the maneuver only but that won’t happen.  
 
 
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