[NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA-discussion Digest, Vol 65, Issue 19

Norman Ellis nxmxellis at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 27 14:03:53 AKDT 2011


I remember reading that ASP engines as they were known in Europe were the same product as Magnum engines in the US, just differently branded. I've owned both, but never thought it worth my while to make a direct comparison. 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Asp 91 (Jerry Stebbins)
   2. Re: Asp 91 (Dave Burton)
   3. Re: Asp 91 (Phil S.)
   4. Re: Asp 91 (Robert  Campbell)
   5. Re: Asp 91 (Michael Ramsey)
   6. Re: Asp 91 (Phil S.)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:52:35 -0500
From: "Jerry Stebbins" <JAStebbins at att.net>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
Message-ID: <31CF143A1D3C4672A9CD873499080960 at stebbinsPC>
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Dave ,thanks for the reply. Where did you get/purchase yht engine?
Jerry
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dave Burton 
  To: 'General pattern discussion' 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91


  I don't have any info about the previous post, but I've had several ASP engines a few years ago. I still have an ASP 108 that runs as well as ever after probably 20 years. Not flown a lot in any year but it's on the plane I use for testing repaired radio gear before I fly in an expensive plane. My experience was to be sure to use the supplied head shim on the 108 or they would not run with 15%-20% fuel I usually use. Probably be OK with 5% or less without the shim.

  Dave Burton

   

  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Stebbins
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:24 AM
  To: Discussion -NSRCA
  Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91

   

  I thought I had saved a copy of a post within the last few weeks, that discussed their experience with the Asp 91. Does anyone remember it, and can point me at the date/who sent it?

  Thanks

  Jerry



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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:01:53 -0400
From: "Dave Burton" <burtona at atmc.net>
To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
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Jerry,

My ASP engines all came from Indy RC. I think Indy RC has been out of
business a few years now. I don't know if ASP,s are still available any
more.

Dave

 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jerry
Stebbins
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:53 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91

 

Dave ,thanks for the reply. Where did you get/purchase yht engine?

Jerry

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Dave Burton <mailto:burtona at atmc.net>  

To: 'General pattern discussion' <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:52 PM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91

 

I don't have any info about the previous post, but I've had several ASP
engines a few years ago. I still have an ASP 108 that runs as well as ever
after probably 20 years. Not flown a lot in any year but it's on the plane I
use for testing repaired radio gear before I fly in an expensive plane. My
experience was to be sure to use the supplied head shim on the 108 or they
would not run with 15%-20% fuel I usually use. Probably be OK with 5% or
less without the shim.

Dave Burton

 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jerry
Stebbins
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:24 AM
To: Discussion -NSRCA
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91

 

I thought I had saved a copy of a post within the last few weeks, that
discussed their experience with the Asp 91. Does anyone remember it, and can
point me at the date/who sent it?

Thanks

Jerry

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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:18:58 -0400
From: "Phil S." <chuenkan at comcast.net>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
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HAH!!  Dave, I used to live about 40 min. west of Indy R/C, knew Jim 
Goad slightly, and bought a LOT of stuff from him.  I still have a 
Coyote pattern plane that he designed in the '70's.  I understand 
Horizon bought out Indy R/C primarily go get the rights to import a line 
of gasser engines (forgot the brand).

On 4/26/2011 5:01 PM, Dave Burton wrote:
>
> Jerry,
>
> My ASP engines all came from Indy RC. I think Indy RC has been out of 
> business a few years now. I don't know if ASP,s are still available 
> any more.
>
> Dave
>
> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry 
> Stebbins
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:53 PM
> *To:* General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
>
> Dave ,thanks for the reply. Where did you get/purchase yht engine?
>
> Jerry
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     *From:* Dave Burton <mailto:burtona at atmc.net>
>
>     *To:* 'General pattern discussion'
>     <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:52 PM
>
>     *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
>
>     I don't have any info about the previous post, but I've had
>     several ASP engines a few years ago. I still have an ASP 108 that
>     runs as well as ever after probably 20 years. Not flown a lot in
>     any year but it's on the plane I use for testing repaired radio
>     gear before I fly in an expensive plane. My experience was to be
>     sure to use the supplied head shim on the 108 or they would not
>     run with 15%-20% fuel I usually use. Probably be OK with 5% or
>     less without the shim.
>
>     Dave Burton
>
>     *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>     [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of
>     *Jerry Stebbins
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:24 AM
>     *To:* Discussion -NSRCA
>     *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
>
>     I thought I had saved a copy of a post within the last few weeks,
>     that discussed their experience with the Asp 91. Does anyone
>     remember it, and can point me at the date/who sent it?
>
>     Thanks
>
>     Jerry
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:29:06 -0500
From: "Robert  Campbell" <rgc1701 at earthlink.net>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
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Phil,

I believe it was Zenoah engines.  That buyout left Horizon with too many brands of glow engines.  At one point they had ASP, TSI, GMS, Webra, MDS, and Saito - and that's just what I remember off the top of my head.


Rob 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phil S. 
  To: General pattern discussion 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91


  HAH!!  Dave, I used to live about 40 min. west of Indy R/C, knew Jim Goad slightly, and bought a LOT of stuff from him.  I still have a Coyote pattern plane that he designed in the '70's.  I understand Horizon bought out Indy R/C primarily go get the rights to import a line of gasser engines (forgot the brand).

  On 4/26/2011 5:01 PM, Dave Burton wrote: 
    Jerry,

    My ASP engines all came from Indy RC. I think Indy RC has been out of business a few years now. I don't know if ASP,s are still available any more.

    Dave



    From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Stebbins
    Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:53 PM
    To: General pattern discussion
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91



    Dave ,thanks for the reply. Where did you get/purchase yht engine?

    Jerry

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Dave Burton 

      To: 'General pattern discussion' 

      Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:52 PM

      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91



      I don't have any info about the previous post, but I've had several ASP engines a few years ago. I still have an ASP 108 that runs as well as ever after probably 20 years. Not flown a lot in any year but it's on the plane I use for testing repaired radio gear before I fly in an expensive plane. My experience was to be sure to use the supplied head shim on the 108 or they would not run with 15%-20% fuel I usually use. Probably be OK with 5% or less without the shim.

      Dave Burton



      From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Stebbins
      Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:24 AM
      To: Discussion -NSRCA
      Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91



      I thought I had saved a copy of a post within the last few weeks, that discussed their experience with the Asp 91. Does anyone remember it, and can point me at the date/who sent it?

      Thanks

      Jerry


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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:53:38 -0500
From: Michael Ramsey <milehipilot at gmail.com>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
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I understand that Magnum engines bare a close family resembelance to ASP
engines.

http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php/engines-motors/engine-accys-air-1/4-stroke-airplane-engines-1.html

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jerry Stebbins <JAStebbins at att.net> wrote:

>  I thought I had saved a copy of a post within the last few weeks, that
> discussed their experience with the Asp 91. Does anyone remember it, and can
> point me at the date/who sent it?
> Thanks
> Jerry
>
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:13:57 -0400
From: "Phil S." <chuenkan at comcast.net>
To: Robert Campbell <rgc1701 at earthlink.net>,     General pattern
    discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
Message-ID: <4DB80885.408 at comcast.net>
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OK, Rob, thanks for jogging the old memory sticks!!  NOW I remember it 
WAS Zenoah...

On 4/26/2011 5:29 PM, Robert Campbell wrote:
> Phil,
> I believe it was Zenoah engines.  That buyout left Horizon with too 
> many brands of glow engines.  At one point they had ASP, TSI, GMS, 
> Webra, MDS, and Saito - and that's just what I remember off the top of 
> my head.
> Rob
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Phil S. <mailto:chuenkan at comcast.net>
>     *To:* General pattern discussion
>     <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:18 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
>
>     HAH!!  Dave, I used to live about 40 min. west of Indy R/C, knew
>     Jim Goad slightly, and bought a LOT of stuff from him.  I still
>     have a Coyote pattern plane that he designed in the '70's.  I
>     understand Horizon bought out Indy R/C primarily go get the rights
>     to import a line of gasser engines (forgot the brand).
>
>     On 4/26/2011 5:01 PM, Dave Burton wrote:
>>
>>     Jerry,
>>
>>     My ASP engines all came from Indy RC. I think Indy RC has been
>>     out of business a few years now. I don't know if ASP,s are still
>>     available any more.
>>
>>     Dave
>>
>>     *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>     [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of
>>     *Jerry Stebbins
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:53 PM
>>     *To:* General pattern discussion
>>     *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
>>
>>     Dave ,thanks for the reply. Where did you get/purchase yht engine?
>>
>>     Jerry
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>         *From:* Dave Burton <mailto:burtona at atmc.net>
>>
>>         *To:* 'General pattern discussion'
>>         <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>
>>         *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:52 PM
>>
>>         *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
>>
>>         I don't have any info about the previous post, but I've had
>>         several ASP engines a few years ago. I still have an ASP 108
>>         that runs as well as ever after probably 20 years. Not flown
>>         a lot in any year but it's on the plane I use for testing
>>         repaired radio gear before I fly in an expensive plane. My
>>         experience was to be sure to use the supplied head shim on
>>         the 108 or they would not run with 15%-20% fuel I usually
>>         use. Probably be OK with 5% or less without the shim.
>>
>>         Dave Burton
>>
>>         *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>         [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf
>>         Of *Jerry Stebbins
>>         *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:24 AM
>>         *To:* Discussion -NSRCA
>>         *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] Asp 91
>>
>>         I thought I had saved a copy of a post within the last few
>>         weeks, that discussed their experience with the Asp 91. Does
>>         anyone remember it, and can point me at the date/who sent it?
>>
>>         Thanks
>>
>>         Jerry
>>
>>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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>>         NSRCA-discussion mailing list
>>         NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
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