[NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again

Dave DaveL322 at comcast.net
Thu May 6 07:05:07 AKDT 2010 

" I'd also argue that to get 150 from a TP requires excellent care, and good
conditions (no hard runs caused by a bad bearing or similar)."

I'd make the same argument for most glow motors being used <G>  Ie, no dirt
or water in the fuel, proper needle settings, proper after run, etc.

Dave




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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Atwood, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again

Exactly.  Hard NOT to try.  I have 5 flight packs and all seem strong.
Only have 40 cycles on a few though, so no long term data but still, you
don't need a lot to get good value. 

I'd also argue that to get 150 from a TP requires excellent care, and good
conditions (no hard runs caused by a bad bearing or similar).  My "risk" is
lower when I'm only trying to get 50-100 cycles.  

Not to mention that shelf life plays a role. 

-M
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Mark,,

Really??? less than 100$ for 10 cells?? Wow!!

I can't not try this now. I can really buy 4 1/2 sets for the price of 
1 thunder power?

Hell my airborne 2s2p, 1760ma lipo from Radical cost more than a 5S 
zippy

MattK


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again


I placed an order of items which were supposedly in stock, but, between 
placing the order and getting it out, one item went on backorder, so 
they didn't ship the order. I realized what had happened and sent an 
e-mail to their customer service, telling them to remove the item from 
my order and ship the rest. They did and issued a credit to my account. 
Worked for me. Yes, the prices are unbeatable. 
 
Ron Van Putte 
 
On May 5, 2010, at 5:26 PM, mike mueller wrote: 
 
> 2 to 3 weeks 
> Tip: 
> Never ever place an order that has a backorder on it. They will > let 
the whole think sit for months and never let you know. 
> HK's customer service is horrible. 
> Prices are un matchable. Mike 
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Bob Richards <bob at toprudder.com> wrote: 
> 
> From: Bob Richards <bob at toprudder.com> 
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again 
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
> Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 1:55 PM 
> 
> I've ordered a couple of times and it was always less than 2 weeks. > 
I always use the cheapest shipping method they offer. 
> 
> --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Rex <trexlesh at msn.com> wrote: 
> 
> From: Rex <trexlesh at msn.com> 
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again 
> To: "NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
> Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 7:43 PM 
> 
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figured. 
> 
> Rex 
> 
> > From: atwoodm at paragon-inc.com 
> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
> > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:12:40 -0400 
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again 
> > 
> > 2-3 weeks. 
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> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org <nsrca-discussion-> 
bounces at lists.nsrca.org> 
> > To: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
> > Sent: Tue May 04 18:49:39 2010 
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again 
> > 
> > Guys 
> > 
> > On average, how long has it been taking to get your battery > 
orders from Hobby City? 
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > 
> > Rex 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 07:08:36 -0700 
> > > From: mups1953 at yahoo.com 
> > > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
> > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again 
> > > 
> > > Zippy's are working well. 
> > > I have 2 new Power Unlimited packs from F3A Unlimited. They are > 
a higher 20C and very light 42 ounces all up. Most 20C packs are > much 
heavier The power is phenomenal so far. 
> > > True's 12C's are 42 ounces but my 1 remaining pack is not > 
coming back from the winter hibernation. I know of others with the > 
same issue. So at twice the price as the Zippy 15C's they are not a > 
good buy. At one time the True's were a good choice but that > changed 
when these packs came along. 
> > > My choice for this year is the Zippy's 15C's for practice and > 
the PU by FU 20C's for contest flights. The PU's are at an > attractive 
price point for what they do. Mike 
> > > 
> > > --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> 
> > > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again 
> > > > To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-> 
discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
> > > > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:36 AM 
> > > > I've had similar good luck with the 
> > > > Flightmax 5000 15C packs. 2 packs weigh in around 
> > > > 1190gms (I have pairs as low as 1170 and one as high as 
> > > > 1204gms). 
> > > > 
> > > > I do NOT have a lot of flights on any yet. About 40 
> > > > on my most used pack so far, but I have 5 sets and all seem 
> > > > to be running strong so far. At under 
> > > > $100/flight pack ($39.95 per 5s pack plus about $10 
> > > > shipping) it's hard not to consider these at least for 
> > > > practice packs. Even if they're only good 
> > > > for 50 flights, that's still under $2/flight. 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm keeping track of my usage and will report back later in 
> > > > the summer when I have more time on these. 
> > > > 
> > > > -Mark 
> > > > 
> > > > Mark Atwood 
> > > > Paragon Consulting, Inc. | President 
> > > > 5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 
> > > > 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 
> > > > Phone: 440.684.3101 x102 | Fax: 440.684.3102 
> > > > mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com 
> > > > | www.paragon-inc.com 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
> > > > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] 
> > > > On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:14 AM 
> > > > To: General pattern discussion 
> > > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again 
> > > > 
> > > > I am flying the 15C Zippy FlightMax 4400s and am amazed 
> > > > with their 
> > > > performance. My "figure of merit" is how well the 
> > > > airplane does in 
> > > > the next to last maneuver in the Master class schedule, the 
> > > > 1/2 
> > > > square loop w/ two 1/2 rolls up. The airplane has 
> > > > more "authority" 
> > > > here than with any other pack I've flown. They are 
> > > > light and 
> > > > inexpensive. 
> > > > 
> > > > Ron Van Putte 
> > > > 
> > > > On May 3, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Stuart Chale wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > > Since Keith brought it up, he is selling what most 
> > > > would say are 
> > > > > the "gold standard" for pattern packs. At least 
> > > > more people have 
> > > > > had good luck cycle number wise with TP packs than 
> > > > many of the 
> > > > > others. Keith what have you decided to use 
> > > > instead? 
> > > > > Has anyone had good luck with any of the newer low 
> > > > cost cells? I 
> > > > > was playing with True RC but had to return too many 
> > > > packs. My best 
> > > > > pack is now failing after about 60 cycles (over 1 year 
> > > > old). Still 
> > > > > pulls well enough to practice but comes down pretty 
> > > > hot and I an 
> > > > > sure it is about ready to go. 
> > > > > Zippy's seem to be the cheapest right now, and the 15C 
> > > > ones are at 
> > > > > a good weight. Anyone having good luck with 
> > > > those? 
> > > > > How about the new TP pro lite 2's? Are they 
> > > > giving the cycles that 
> > > > > the original Pro Lites did 
> > > > > Stuart 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 5/3/2010 9:38 PM, Keith Black wrote: 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> For Sale: Two Thunder Power Prolite V2 5300 5s 
> > > > packs with only 20 
> > > > >> flights (Model: TP5300-5SPL2). Packs are wired 
> > > > together in a 10s 
> > > > >> configuration. Weight including Dean's connector 
> > > > is 1165 grams. 
> > > > >> The packs have been treated extremely well (I'm 
> > > > very meticulous 
> > > > >> about my equipment). Never discharged over about 
> > > > 3300 mAh (62% of 
> > > > >> capacity), and were always stored at a storage 
> > > > voltage of 38.5 
> > > > >> volts in air-conditioned room. Packs were 
> > > > purchased in July, 2009. 
> > > > >> The only reason I'm selling these packs is because 
> > > > they are the 
> > > > >> only pack I have that is this shape and I want to 
> > > > standardize on a 
> > > > >> single form factor for mounting convenience. The 
> > > > (recently 
> > > > >> reduced) price from Thunder Power is $419.98, I 
> > > > will sell both 5s 
> > > > >> packs for $189.00 plus shipping. Keith Black 
> > > > 
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