[NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop

Ed Alt ed_alt at hotmail.com
Sat Jul 24 16:43:11 AKDT 2010


Don't forget the gloves.

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From: "Pete Cosky" <pcosky at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:41 PM
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop

> Or buy a good welding hood
> 
> Pete Cosky
> sent from my mobile device
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:24 PM
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop
> 
> Guys who say, "Oops!"  a lot should steer clear of electric-powered  
> airplanes.
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Jul 24, 2010, at 6:42 PM, <shinden1 at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Agree Dave
>>
>> As in any competition you have to know your equipment ,keep up with  
>> maintenance ,and have backups.
>> I saw many smoked batteries,and burnt speed controllers at the  
>> Nats ,,as well as flame outs from the YS Engines.
>>
>> Competition is supposed to be rough on equipment .I know of plenty  
>> Neu motors that have spun.or burnt and took forever to be repaired  
>> or replaced and upgrades continue as in any competition engine.
>>
>> But I will agree if you are new to the sport .or not very  
>> handy ,,Electric my give you an easier time in competition
>>
>> Bryan
>> ---- Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I would agree that a properly running YS170 is still  
>>> competitive...but with
>>> the "cost" of more fiddling, more maintenance, and less margin on  
>>> the noise
>>> meter.  For anyone starting from scratch..I think it is getting  
>>> very hard to
>>> make the argument that electric is more expensive.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Neu F3A certainly is putting the most RPM to the prop of any  
>>> of the
>>> currently used electric setups, and the potential "cost" is that when
>>> propped to make the big power...it also has the capability of  
>>> smoking lipos
>>> if the throttle hand is too heavy.  The newer higher KV Plett Evo  
>>> might be
>>> in this category as well, but I've not seen one run yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   _____
>>>
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of  
>>> mike mueller
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:32 PM
>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Well stated Matt. Although I do have to say that the most  
>>> balistic and
>>> powerful plane I saw at the Nats was Bobby Satalino's Beryl with a  
>>> non CDI
>>> YS 170. Next in performance was anything with a Neu like Dave  
>>> Lockhart.
>>>
>>>  E. has many options that deliver the mail. Still a good YS is  
>>> viable. Mike
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 7/24/10, rcmaster199 at aol.com <rcmaster199 at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: rcmaster199 at aol.com <rcmaster199 at aol.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop
>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>>> Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 5:06 PM
>>>
>>> I took a 3 minute flight on Dave Lockhart's Bravo several weeks  
>>> ago...it was
>>> my first on a full blown electric. And it was enough to convince  
>>> me that wet
>>> powered systems are behind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Electric Bravo is superior in its powerplant than practically  
>>> every wet
>>> set-up I've seen. (That's not necessarily true of all electrics  
>>> but Dave's
>>> set-up is something else...like cheating)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's gonna be expensive but if one wants to be really serious  
>>> about pattern,
>>> electric power has got to be in your future. And no, it has  
>>> nothing to do
>>> with judging in my opinion. Electric just makes power delivery (of  
>>> the type
>>> we demand in pattern), easy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MattK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: shinden1 at cox.net
>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 2:21 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I smell electric in your future!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bryan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net
>>> <http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose? 
>>> to=astafford at md.metrocast.net> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Now that the NATS are done, I'm going through some stuff and  
>>>> getting rid
>>> of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> things I'm not using.  I wanted to post the items here first.
>>>
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>>>> 1 NIB YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition - 800.00 (this setup has never  
>>>> run)
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>>>> 1 YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition fresh factory rebuild with new  
>>>> ignition
>>> 700.00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>> 1 YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition fresh factory rebuild with used  
>>>> ignition
>>>
>>>
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>>>> (still runs perfect) 600.00
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>>>> 1 Hatori 821 Pipe brand new, no box  120.00
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>>>> 1 Hatori 821 pipe used, but perfect condition 75.00
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>>>> Please email me directly at astafford at md.metrocast.net
>>> <http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose? 
>>> to=astafford at md.metrocast.net>
>>>
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>>>> Arch
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