[NSRCA-discussion] Mac vs PC was PACSS Page

Atwood, Mark atwoodm at paragon-inc.com
Mon Jul 12 06:32:17 AKDT 2010 

It's especially scary considering that you went through AE with an abacus and a slide rule and are now advocating for a Mac :)  

Mark Atwood
Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President
5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 
Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102
mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com  |  www.paragon-inc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:24 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Mac vs PC was PACSS Page

Yeah, what he said.

Geez!  I just had a weird thought:  Mark Atwood and I agree on  
something.

Ron

On Jul 12, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Atwood, Mark wrote:

> That's the first myth, that running windows on a Mac is a Pseudo  
> PC.   If you run windows natively on your mac, it's no different  
> than running it on an HP, or a Dell, or a Sony, or any other  
> "brand" machine.  The fact that a Mac comes with it's own OS,  
> doesn't make it any different than those Intel based machines.   
> That didn't use to be the case when Mac's used the motorala chips,  
> but for the last 5 years or so, they're just a different brand name  
> on the hardware.
>
> They're expensive because it's probably some of THE best hardware  
> out there.   Throw all the Mac OS benefits away, it's still the  
> best PC hardware available, though I would argue that it's pricey,  
> even for the best. But then that's true in almost any product class...
>
> The idea of running a virtual PC is in use regardless of whether or  
> not you're running on a mac.  In my office we have about a 50/50  
> mix of Mac vs other PC hardware, but in ALL cases, everyone is  
> running VMWare and using virtual machines, be they XP/Vista/Vista64/ 
> Win7 and even a few Win 98 virtuals for old clients.   The beauty  
> (besides being able to jump from OS to OS without rebooting, or  
> reloading) is that IF you do get a virus, you simply blow away the  
> virtual and restart it, about the same effort as closing Word and  
> reopening it.
>
> The advantage of the Mac is simply that the Mac OS runs in the  
> background much cleaner than Windows does and therefore seldom, if  
> ever needs to be rebooted and overall is more secure.
>
> There's a reason it costs more...
>
> Mark Atwood
> Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President
> 5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124
> Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102
> mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com  |  www.paragon-inc.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Fuqua
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:38 AM
> To: 'General pattern discussion'
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>
> Probably because PC users wonder why MACaphiles like to pay so much  
> just to
> say they have a better OS.   And then to be compatible with the  
> rest of the
> world have to resort to pseudo PC operating systems.   Seems sort  
> of round
> about to me.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron  
> Van Putte
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:04 AM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>
> Yep, then you have the best of both.  You can't take a PC and make it
> emulate the excellent features of the Mac OS.
>
> BTW, I wonder why PC owners seem so insecure that they are constantly
> taking pot shots at Macs.
>
> Ron
>
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:07 AM, Phil Spelt wrote:
>
>> That's HI-LAR-IOUS -- buy an expensive Mac, and then load software
>> to emulate a real computer...ROFLMAO
>>
>> At 11:53 PM 7/11/2010, you wrote:
>>> Really?  I guess Parallels Desktop and the other PC emulators must
>>> not work.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Robert L. Beaubien wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess thats a good trade off for NOT actually being able to do
>>>> anything a) useful, or b)unapproved by Steve Jobs. :-)
>>>>
>>>> - Robert Beaubien
>>>> - NSRCA District 7 Webmaster
>>>> -
>>>> "No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however a
>>>> large
>>>> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced."
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>> [ mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Ron Van
>>>> Putte
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:25 PM
>>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>>>
>>>> Yep, SIMPLE.  Mac owners don't have to contend with those pesky
>>>> viruses.
>>>>
>>>> Ron VP
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Phil Spelt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You've got a point -- enjoy the SIMPLE life...lol
>>>>>
>>>>> At 07:31 PM 7/11/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>> Or jump ship and run Mac and enjoy life :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2010-07-11, at 5:28 PM, Phil Spelt <chuenkan at comcast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't know much of anyone that likes Windoze Vista, 32 OR 64.
>>>>>>> It's on my laptop, but as soon as I get the gelt together I'm
>>>>>>> going to "upgrade" to Windows 7...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GIHMS!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (That's "Gosh I hate Microsoft.")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 11:41 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I first tried to us my home PC w/ 64 bit Windows Vista and I
>>>>>>>> would get an error during install. Found out that for some
>>>>>>>> reason the SW don't like 64 Vista.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I used Lisa Laptop w/ Windows XP...No problems and ran fine...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't look ike anything has changed on the website...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm running Norton 360 on all my PC and Laptops.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Larry Diamond
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- On Sun, 7/11/10, ronnan57 at gmail.com <ronnan57 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: ronnan57 at gmail.com <ronnan57 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>>>>>>>> To: "General pattern discussion" < nsrca-
>>>>>>>> discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 9:21 AM
>>>>>>>>> Jeff I just got it for kens contest
>>>>>>>>> do you want me to send it to you.
>>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>>>>>>> From: Jeff Hatton
>>>>>>>>> Sender: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>>>>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: General pattern discussion
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Jul 11, 2010 7:55 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just went to download the PACSS software and get this
>>>>>>>>> message..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This web page at pacss.sgmservice.com has been reported as
>>>>>>>>> an attack
>>>>>>>>> page and has been blocked based on your security
>>>>>>>>> preferences.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has the page been compromised and if so what is the correct
>>>>>>>>> link to get
>>>>>>>>> the software?
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>>>>>>> --> There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and  
>>>>>>> targets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society,
>>>>>>> Inc.
>>>>>>>        URL: http://www.kcrctn.com
>>>>>>> AMA--1294,  Scientific Leader Member  SPA--177, Board Member
>>>>>>>       My URL: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/~chuenkan/
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>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society,  
>>>>> Inc.
>>>>>        URL: http://www.kcrctn.com
>>>>> AMA--1294,  Scientific Leader Member  SPA--177, Board Member
>>>>>       My URL: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/~chuenkan/
>>>>>       (865) 435-1476 v  (865) 604-0541 c
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>> --> There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and targets.
>>
>> Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society, Inc.
>>        URL: http://www.kcrctn.com
>> AMA--1294,  Scientific Leader Member  SPA--177, Board Member
>>       My URL: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/~chuenkan/
>>       (865) 435-1476 v  (865) 604-0541 c
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