[NSRCA-discussion] Mac vs PC was PACSS Page

Pete Cosky pcosky at comcast.net
Mon Jul 12 06:29:29 AKDT 2010 

What's next? Dogs and Cats living together....mass hysteria....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Mac vs PC was PACSS Page


> Yeah, what he said.
> 
> Geez!  I just had a weird thought:  Mark Atwood and I agree on  
> something.
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Atwood, Mark wrote:
> 
>> That's the first myth, that running windows on a Mac is a Pseudo  
>> PC.   If you run windows natively on your mac, it's no different  
>> than running it on an HP, or a Dell, or a Sony, or any other  
>> "brand" machine.  The fact that a Mac comes with it's own OS,  
>> doesn't make it any different than those Intel based machines.   
>> That didn't use to be the case when Mac's used the motorala chips,  
>> but for the last 5 years or so, they're just a different brand name  
>> on the hardware.
>>
>> They're expensive because it's probably some of THE best hardware  
>> out there.   Throw all the Mac OS benefits away, it's still the  
>> best PC hardware available, though I would argue that it's pricey,  
>> even for the best. But then that's true in almost any product class...
>>
>> The idea of running a virtual PC is in use regardless of whether or  
>> not you're running on a mac.  In my office we have about a 50/50  
>> mix of Mac vs other PC hardware, but in ALL cases, everyone is  
>> running VMWare and using virtual machines, be they XP/Vista/Vista64/ 
>> Win7 and even a few Win 98 virtuals for old clients.   The beauty  
>> (besides being able to jump from OS to OS without rebooting, or  
>> reloading) is that IF you do get a virus, you simply blow away the  
>> virtual and restart it, about the same effort as closing Word and  
>> reopening it.
>>
>> The advantage of the Mac is simply that the Mac OS runs in the  
>> background much cleaner than Windows does and therefore seldom, if  
>> ever needs to be rebooted and overall is more secure.
>>
>> There's a reason it costs more...
>>
>> Mark Atwood
>> Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President
>> 5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124
>> Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102
>> mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com  |  www.paragon-inc.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
>> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Fuqua
>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:38 AM
>> To: 'General pattern discussion'
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>
>> Probably because PC users wonder why MACaphiles like to pay so much  
>> just to
>> say they have a better OS.   And then to be compatible with the  
>> rest of the
>> world have to resort to pseudo PC operating systems.   Seems sort  
>> of round
>> about to me.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron  
>> Van Putte
>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:04 AM
>> To: General pattern discussion
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>
>> Yep, then you have the best of both.  You can't take a PC and make it
>> emulate the excellent features of the Mac OS.
>>
>> BTW, I wonder why PC owners seem so insecure that they are constantly
>> taking pot shots at Macs.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:07 AM, Phil Spelt wrote:
>>
>>> That's HI-LAR-IOUS -- buy an expensive Mac, and then load software
>>> to emulate a real computer...ROFLMAO
>>>
>>> At 11:53 PM 7/11/2010, you wrote:
>>>> Really?  I guess Parallels Desktop and the other PC emulators must
>>>> not work.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Robert L. Beaubien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I guess thats a good trade off for NOT actually being able to do
>>>>> anything a) useful, or b)unapproved by Steve Jobs. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> - Robert Beaubien
>>>>> - NSRCA District 7 Webmaster
>>>>> -
>>>>> "No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however a
>>>>> large
>>>>> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced."
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>> [ mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Ron Van
>>>>> Putte
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:25 PM
>>>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, SIMPLE.  Mac owners don't have to contend with those pesky
>>>>> viruses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron VP
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Phil Spelt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You've got a point -- enjoy the SIMPLE life...lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 07:31 PM 7/11/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Or jump ship and run Mac and enjoy life :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2010-07-11, at 5:28 PM, Phil Spelt <chuenkan at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't know much of anyone that likes Windoze Vista, 32 OR 64.
>>>>>>>> It's on my laptop, but as soon as I get the gelt together I'm
>>>>>>>> going to "upgrade" to Windows 7...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GIHMS!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (That's "Gosh I hate Microsoft.")
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 11:41 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I first tried to us my home PC w/ 64 bit Windows Vista and I
>>>>>>>>> would get an error during install. Found out that for some
>>>>>>>>> reason the SW don't like 64 Vista.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I used Lisa Laptop w/ Windows XP...No problems and ran fine...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It doesn't look ike anything has changed on the website...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm running Norton 360 on all my PC and Laptops.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Larry Diamond
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- On Sun, 7/11/10, ronnan57 at gmail.com <ronnan57 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: ronnan57 at gmail.com <ronnan57 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>>>>>>>>> To: "General pattern discussion" < nsrca-
>>>>>>>>> discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 9:21 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff I just got it for kens contest
>>>>>>>>>> do you want me to send it to you.
>>>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>>>>>>>> From: Jeff Hatton
>>>>>>>>>> Sender: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>>>>>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: General pattern discussion
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Jul 11, 2010 7:55 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just went to download the PACSS software and get this
>>>>>>>>>> message..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This web page at pacss.sgmservice.com has been reported as
>>>>>>>>>> an attack
>>>>>>>>>> page and has been blocked based on your security
>>>>>>>>>> preferences.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Has the page been compromised and if so what is the correct
>>>>>>>>>> link to get
>>>>>>>>>> the software?
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>>>>>>>> --> There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and  
>>>>>>>> targets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society,
>>>>>>>> Inc.
>>>>>>>>        URL: http://www.kcrctn.com
>>>>>>>> AMA--1294,  Scientific Leader Member  SPA--177, Board Member
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>>>>>> --> There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and targets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society,  
>>>>>> Inc.
>>>>>>        URL: http://www.kcrctn.com
>>>>>> AMA--1294,  Scientific Leader Member  SPA--177, Board Member
>>>>>>       My URL: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/~chuenkan/
>>>>>>       (865) 435-1476 v  (865) 604-0541 c
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>>> --> There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and targets.
>>>
>>> Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society, Inc.
>>>        URL: http://www.kcrctn.com
>>> AMA--1294,  Scientific Leader Member  SPA--177, Board Member
>>>       My URL: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/~chuenkan/
>>>       (865) 435-1476 v  (865) 604-0541 c
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