[NSRCA-discussion] Mac vs PC was PACSS Page

Atwood, Mark atwoodm at paragon-inc.com
Mon Jul 12 05:50:45 AKDT 2010 

That's the first myth, that running windows on a Mac is a Pseudo PC.   If you run windows natively on your mac, it's no different than running it on an HP, or a Dell, or a Sony, or any other "brand" machine.  The fact that a Mac comes with it's own OS, doesn't make it any different than those Intel based machines.  That didn't use to be the case when Mac's used the motorala chips, but for the last 5 years or so, they're just a different brand name on the hardware.

They're expensive because it's probably some of THE best hardware out there.   Throw all the Mac OS benefits away, it's still the best PC hardware available, though I would argue that it's pricey, even for the best. But then that's true in almost any product class... 

The idea of running a virtual PC is in use regardless of whether or not you're running on a mac.  In my office we have about a 50/50 mix of Mac vs other PC hardware, but in ALL cases, everyone is running VMWare and using virtual machines, be they XP/Vista/Vista64/Win7 and even a few Win 98 virtuals for old clients.   The beauty (besides being able to jump from OS to OS without rebooting, or reloading) is that IF you do get a virus, you simply blow away the virtual and restart it, about the same effort as closing Word and reopening it.

The advantage of the Mac is simply that the Mac OS runs in the background much cleaner than Windows does and therefore seldom, if ever needs to be rebooted and overall is more secure.  

There's a reason it costs more...

Mark Atwood
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-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Fuqua
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:38 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page

Probably because PC users wonder why MACaphiles like to pay so much just to
say they have a better OS.   And then to be compatible with the rest of the
world have to resort to pseudo PC operating systems.   Seems sort of round
about to me.

-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:04 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page

Yep, then you have the best of both.  You can't take a PC and make it  
emulate the excellent features of the Mac OS.

BTW, I wonder why PC owners seem so insecure that they are constantly  
taking pot shots at Macs.

Ron

On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:07 AM, Phil Spelt wrote:

> That's HI-LAR-IOUS -- buy an expensive Mac, and then load software  
> to emulate a real computer...ROFLMAO
>
> At 11:53 PM 7/11/2010, you wrote:
>> Really?  I guess Parallels Desktop and the other PC emulators must
>> not work.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Robert L. Beaubien wrote:
>>
>>> I guess thats a good trade off for NOT actually being able to do
>>> anything a) useful, or b)unapproved by Steve Jobs. :-)
>>>
>>> - Robert Beaubien
>>> - NSRCA District 7 Webmaster
>>> -
>>> "No trees were harmed in the sending of this message, however a  
>>> large
>>> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced."
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> [ mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of  
>>> Ron Van
>>> Putte
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:25 PM
>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>>
>>> Yep, SIMPLE.  Mac owners don't have to contend with those pesky
>>> viruses.
>>>
>>> Ron VP
>>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Phil Spelt wrote:
>>>
>>>> You've got a point -- enjoy the SIMPLE life...lol
>>>>
>>>> At 07:31 PM 7/11/2010, you wrote:
>>>>> Or jump ship and run Mac and enjoy life :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Chad
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2010-07-11, at 5:28 PM, Phil Spelt <chuenkan at comcast.net>  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't know much of anyone that likes Windoze Vista, 32 OR 64.
>>>>>> It's on my laptop, but as soon as I get the gelt together I'm
>>>>>> going to "upgrade" to Windows 7...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GIHMS!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (That's "Gosh I hate Microsoft.")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 11:41 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I first tried to us my home PC w/ 64 bit Windows Vista and I
>>>>>>> would get an error during install. Found out that for some
>>>>>>> reason the SW don't like 64 Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used Lisa Laptop w/ Windows XP...No problems and ran fine...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't look ike anything has changed on the website...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm running Norton 360 on all my PC and Laptops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry Diamond
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- On Sun, 7/11/10, ronnan57 at gmail.com <ronnan57 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: ronnan57 at gmail.com <ronnan57 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>>>>>>> To: "General pattern discussion" < nsrca-
>>>>>>> discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 9:21 AM
>>>>>>>> Jeff I just got it for kens contest
>>>>>>>> do you want me to send it to you.
>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>>>>>> From: Jeff Hatton
>>>>>>>> Sender: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>>>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: General pattern discussion
>>>>>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Page
>>>>>>>> Sent: Jul 11, 2010 7:55 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just went to download the PACSS software and get this
>>>>>>>> message..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This web page at pacss.sgmservice.com has been reported as
>>>>>>>> an attack
>>>>>>>> page and has been blocked based on your security
>>>>>>>> preferences.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has the page been compromised and if so what is the correct
>>>>>>>> link to get
>>>>>>>> the software?
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>>>>>> --> There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and targets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society,  
>>>>>> Inc.
>>>>>>        URL: http://www.kcrctn.com
>>>>>> AMA--1294,  Scientific Leader Member  SPA--177, Board Member
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>>>> Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society, Inc.
>>>>        URL: http://www.kcrctn.com
>>>> AMA--1294,  Scientific Leader Member  SPA--177, Board Member
>>>>       My URL: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/~chuenkan/
>>>>       (865) 435-1476 v  (865) 604-0541 c
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>
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>        URL: http://www.kcrctn.com
> AMA--1294,  Scientific Leader Member  SPA--177, Board Member
>       My URL: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/~chuenkan/
>       (865) 435-1476 v  (865) 604-0541 c
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