[NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight

Sat Feb 13 08:11:27 AKST 2010

Yes, stock Phoenix 85HV with wires is about 4.2 oz, and the new Phoenix 80HV
ICE is about 3.7, and can be reduced to about 2.5 by shortening the wires.

The Phoenix ICE Lite are good for 6S (with BEC).

The Phoenix ICE are good for 8S (with BEC).

The Phoenix ICE HV are good for 12S (no BEC, separate power to RX required).

Regards,

Dave Lockhart

Team Castle Creations

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Strickland
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:03 PM
To: NSRCA
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight

I haven't weighed my HV85s--but the lit says 4.2oz with no statement about
wires whereas the ICE HV 80 states 2 oz without.  Certainly worth checking
in my spare time...  But you could for sure pick up 1+oz for around 150.00
plus you get data logging.  Costs to "add lightness", huh!?
RS 

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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:38:19 -0800
From: homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com
To: cjm767driver at hotmail.com; nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight

Chris, I think you are on to something. A wireless controller! 

Chris 

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From: Chris Moon <cjm767driver at hotmail.com>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 8:35:09 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight

The ice 80HV is what he wants. It does 12S.  The listed weight of 2oz is
without wires and I think is just over 3oz with wires unless you find a way
to make it work without wires???

Chris

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krishlan fitzsimmons wrote:

Do the ICE controllers work with 10S? I see at Hobby People they list 8S
max. 

Chris 

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From: Richard Strickland <pamrich47 at hotmail.com>
To: NSRCA <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 8:23:52 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight

The new CC ICE HV80 only weighs 2oz compared to the HV85 at 4+.
.02
RS

> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:45:27 -0800
> From: mups1953 at yahoo.com
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight
> 
> Ron that's a chunk to lose. It can be done but it gets costly.
> On Chris Moon's ElectricF3a Forums there is a building thread of the
Sickle's from last spring. I had to shave about a pound off the Fatboy to
make weight. I did it at a pretty expensive cost but I did it just the same.
> http://electric-f3a.com/smf/index.php?topic=52.0
> 
> Here's a part of 1 post
>   Re: Sickle build 
> « Reply #79 on: November 09, 2009, 06:30:19 AM » Quote Modify Remove  
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> 
> Wow that's a big question. I think it's covered in the thread.
> Things I changed and did.
> PGB wing tube,
> lightest servo's possible
> I shaved of 5 ounces from the inside of the fuse mostly the nose.
> I changed to much lighter landing gear.
> I used a YGE controller to save 2 ounces
> no switch
> 800 Mil receiver pack only
> CF prop
> I have the weight down to 10lbs 15.5 ounces.
> It ain't easy!!!! Mike
> 
> Other ideas.
> Consider the smaller AXI motor info on F3AUnlimited.com
<http://f3aunlimited.com/> 
> You do not need a full size Pletty in that plane for advanced. It's total
overkill.
> You can drop your lipo's down to 4500 mil or even smaller for advanced
too. This could save up to 8 ounces.
> Maybe the new Spin 75 ESC at 2 ounces.
> No spinner just a rounded nut. It allows better cooling and works great.
> Wheels,pants and axles add up. Think in grams and pretty soon you get
there.
> Servos. I ran 3421's MG!!!! in the ailerons without any problems. The
Airtronics wing servos are .8 ounce and do the job too.
> Linkages, wires all add up and need to be as short as possible.
> You can drop your receiver lipo down to as low as a 460 Mil. No switch and
a Jaccio light weight 6V regulator only.
> Receivers come extrememly light now. I have a new Airtronics 6 channel
full range that would fly a pattern plane that weighs under 10 grams.
> Cut all un needed structure out of the airframe. Use light weight
materials like CF balsa trays. Watch the weight of all your hardware. I have
tail wheels that weight 8 grams
> You can do it. Good luck, M²
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Ron Hansen <rcpilot at wowway.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Ron Hansen <rcpilot at wowway.com>
> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight
> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 9:33 PM
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> > I’m in the
> > process of glassing and painting a Focus
> > II.  Why because this was my first attempt at glassing
> > and painting and I
> > thought this would be a good test bed.  This will also
> > be my first
> > electric pattern plane.  I knew going in that making
> > weight would be extra
> > hard in my case.  If I don’t make weight I
> > won’t be crushed
> > but I want to give it my best shot.  The following
> > weights are mostly
> > estimates and I haven’t settled on any of the
> > equipment listed so I’m
> > still open for suggestions.  I will be flying
> > intermediate and advanced
> > next year.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Fuse                            
> >            
> > 1453
> > g
> > 
> > Left
> > Wing         
> >                        
> > 469
> > 
> > Right
> > Wing                               
> > 445
> > 
> > Canopy                                    
> > 185
> > 
> > Cowl                                        
> > 135
> > 
> > Elevator
> > Servos(2)                     
> > 54
> > 
> > Rudder
> > Servo                            
> > 50
> > 
> > Aileron
> > Servos(2)                       
> > 100
> > 
> > Receiver                                   
> > 22
> > 
> > JR Std.
> > Switch                          
> > 22
> > 
> > Pletty                                       
> > 567
> > 
> > HV85                                       
> > 120
> > 
> > Receiver
> > Bat                             
> > 49
> > 
> > Main
> > Bat                                  
> > 1344
> > 
> > Wheels                                    
> > 35
> > 
> > Std. Glass
> > Gear                        
> > 158
> > 
> > Carbon Wing
> > Tube                    
> > 47
> > 
> > Tru Turn
> > Aluminum
> > Spinner        
> > 72
> > 
> > Misc.                                       
> > ????
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Total                                        
> > +5327g
> > (11.74 lbs)
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> > Thanks
> > Ron
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