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85HV with wires is about 4.2 oz, and the new <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:place></st1:City> 80HV ICE is about 3.7, and can be
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BEC, separate power to RX required).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, February 13, 2010
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I haven't weighed my HV85s--but the lit says 4.2oz with no
statement about wires whereas the ICE HV 80 states 2 oz without.
Certainly worth checking in my spare time... But you could for sure pick
up 1+oz for around 150.00 plus you get data logging. Costs to "add
lightness", huh!?<br>
RS <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com<br>
To: cjm767driver@hotmail.com; nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<cjm767driver@hotmail.com><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName> <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sat, February 13, 2010
8:35:09 AM<br>
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The ice 80HV is what he wants. It does 12S. The listed weight of 2oz is
without wires and I think is just over 3oz with wires unless you find a way to
make it work without wires???<br>
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Chris<br>
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I see at Hobby People they list 8S max. <br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy'> Richard Strickland
<pamrich47@hotmail.com><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sat, February 13, 2010
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
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The new CC ICE HV80 only weighs 2oz compared to the HV85 at 4+.<br>
.02<br>
RS<br>
<br>
> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:45:27 -0800<br>
> From: mups1953@yahoo.com<br>
> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight<br>
> <br>
> Ron that's a chunk to lose. It can be done but it gets costly.<br>
> On Chris Moon's ElectricF3a Forums there is a building thread of the
Sickle's from last spring. I had to shave about a pound off the Fatboy to make
weight. I did it at a pretty expensive cost but I did it just the same.<br>
> http://electric-f3a.com/smf/index.php?topic=52.0<br>
> <br>
> Here's a part of 1 post<br>
> Re: Sickle build <br>
> « Reply #79 on: November 09, 2009, 06:30:19 AM » Quote Modify Remove
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> <br>
>
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> <br>
> Wow that's a big question. I think it's covered in the thread.<br>
> Things I changed and did.<br>
> PGB wing tube,<br>
> lightest servo's possible<br>
> I shaved of 5 ounces from the inside of the fuse mostly the nose.<br>
> I changed to much lighter landing gear.<br>
> I used a YGE controller to save 2 ounces<br>
> no switch<br>
> 800 Mil receiver pack only<br>
> CF prop<br>
> I have the weight down to 10lbs 15.5 ounces.<br>
> It ain't easy!!!! Mike<br>
> <br>
> Other ideas.<br>
> Consider the smaller AXI motor info on <a href="http://f3aunlimited.com/">F3AUnlimited.com</a><br>
> You do not need a full size Pletty in that plane for advanced. It's total
overkill.<br>
> You can drop your lipo's down to 4500 mil or even smaller for advanced
too. This could save up to 8 ounces.<br>
> Maybe the new Spin 75 ESC at 2 ounces.<br>
> No spinner just a rounded nut. It allows better cooling and works great.<br>
> Wheels,pants and axles add up. Think in grams and pretty soon you get
there.<br>
> Servos. I ran 3421's MG!!!! in the ailerons without any problems. The
Airtronics wing servos are .8 ounce and do the job too.<br>
> Linkages, wires all add up and need to be as short as possible.<br>
> You can drop your receiver lipo down to as low as a 460 Mil. No switch and
a Jaccio light weight 6V regulator only.<br>
> Receivers come extrememly light now. I have a new Airtronics 6 channel
full range that would fly a pattern plane that weighs under 10 grams.<br>
> Cut all un needed structure out of the airframe. Use light weight
materials like CF balsa trays. Watch the weight of all your hardware. I have
tail wheels that weight 8 grams<br>
> You can do it. Good luck, M²<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Ron Hansen <rcpilot@wowway.com> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > From: Ron Hansen <rcpilot@wowway.com><br>
> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight<br>
> > To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
> > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 9:33 PM<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > I’m in the<br>
> > process of glassing and painting a Focus<br>
> > II. Why because this was my first attempt at glassing<br>
> > and painting and I<br>
> > thought this would be a good test bed. This will also<br>
> > be my first<br>
> > electric pattern plane. I knew going in that making<br>
> > weight would be extra<br>
> > hard in my case. If I don’t make weight I<br>
> > won’t be crushed<br>
> > but I want to give it my best shot. The following<br>
> > weights are mostly<br>
> > estimates and I haven’t settled on any of the<br>
> > equipment listed so I’m<br>
> > still open for suggestions. I will be flying<br>
> > intermediate and advanced<br>
> > next year.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> >
Fuse <br>
> > <br>
> > 1453<br>
> > g<br>
> > <br>
> > Left<br>
> > Wing <br>
> >
<br>
> > 469<br>
> > <br>
> > Right<br>
> >
Wing <br>
> > 445<br>
> > <br>
> >
Canopy <br>
> > 185<br>
> > <br>
> >
Cowl <br>
> > 135<br>
> > <br>
> > Elevator<br>
> >
Servos(2) <br>
> > 54<br>
> > <br>
> > Rudder<br>
> >
Servo <br>
> > 50<br>
> > <br>
> > Aileron<br>
> >
Servos(2) <br>
> > 100<br>
> > <br>
> >
Receiver <br>
> > 22<br>
> > <br>
> > JR Std.<br>
> >
Switch <br>
> > 22<br>
> > <br>
> >
Pletty <br>
> > 567<br>
> > <br>
> >
HV85 <br>
> > 120<br>
> > <br>
> > Receiver<br>
> >
Bat <br>
> > 49<br>
> > <br>
> > Main<br>
> >
Bat <br>
> > 1344<br>
> > <br>
> >
Wheels <br>
> > 35<br>
> > <br>
> > Std. Glass<br>
> >
Gear <br>
> > 158<br>
> > <br>
> > Carbon Wing<br>
> >
Tube <br>
> > 47<br>
> > <br>
> > Tru Turn<br>
> > Aluminum<br>
> > Spinner <br>
> > 72<br>
> > <br>
> >
Misc. <br>
> > ????<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> >
Total <br>
> > +5327g<br>
> > (11.74 lbs)<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Thanks<br>
> > Ron<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
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