[NSRCA-discussion] Which transmitter?

Fri Dec 24 11:05:04 AKST 2010

Thanks, Dwayne

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Verne Koester
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 1:59 PM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Which transmitter?

As someone else pointed out, the conditions toward the bottom of the list
takes precedence over anything above it on the list. The condition select
screen allows you to move your various conditions around on the priority
list. The final test to show yourself it's working is to turn on a flight
condition. On the main screen, you'll see what condition you're in. Now,
without turning off that condition, flip the switch on a condition that's
lower on the list and see if that shows on the main screen. You'll see that
the higher priority (lower on the list) condition has superseded the other
condition you had turned on. When you turn off the condition you just turned
on, you'll now see that it's gone back to the original condition you had
turned on. When all the conditions are shut off, it goes back to the default
condition which is first on the list and therefore the lowest priority
condition. I'd suggest you use meaningful names for your conditions like
"snap", "spin", "flight", "normal", etc. That way you have no doubt what you
programmed any given condition for. 

My radio starts off in "normal" which activates my controller and has
reduced rudder for takeoff. As soon as I lift off, I hit the switch that
activated retracts in the old days. That's my "flight" condition which is
where I'm at for most of my flight. The "flight" condition activates my
countdown timer, puts my rudder back to full throw, and bumps up the
throttle trim a little for stalls, etc. The "flight" condition is the one I
generally copy when creating a new condition because it has the base expo
and throw rates that work for me 90% of the time. The advantage is that I'll
have less adjustments to make when I'm creating a new condition for snaps,
spins, or whatever. Obviously, you'd only want to create a condition if you
actually need it for a particular maneuver. If your plane snaps great in
your "flight" condition, there's no need to have a snap condition and that's
one less switch to turn on and off during your flight.

Verne

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dwayne Brown
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 12:10 PM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Which transmitter?

Verne, if I have FL01 set on a switch and FL04 set on another switch which
on takes precedence?   Dwayne

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Verne Koester
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 5:26 PM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Which transmitter?

Dwayne,

The answer is so simple it makes me wonder if I'm actually answering what
you're asking. Whenever you set up a flight condition, you go to the
condition select screen. Create (add) the condition from scratch or by
copying an existing condition (better choice) and name your new condition.
When you highlight your new condition, you'll see a null button. Press on
that and you'll go to a screen where you pick the switch, stick, knob, or
slider you want to use to activate the condition. After you pick the switch,
click on the "on-position" button which takes you to another screen to set
what position the switch needs to be in to activate the condition. With a
3-position switch, you can make one switch position activate Condition #4
and the other switch position would activate Condition #5 if you choose. The
third switch position shuts both conditions off. I hope I've explained this
in a way you can understand. If we did this in person on the actual radio,
it would be a lot easier to just show you. You'll also want to pay attention
to the Condition Priority settings because that determines which condition
will prevail if you have the switches turned on for two different
conditions. 

When I first got going with my 14 MZ, I just created a model and kept going
back and forth between the manual (which isn't the greatest) and the radio
and kept trying stuff until I understood it. One thing I quickly learned is
to just focus on the stuff I actually want. There are simply way too many
features to remember them all. I've had mine since they first came out and
there's still stuff I don't know how to set up but I don't care because
those are features I don't want or need. If you're still having trouble,
send me a private e-mail and we can arrange to go over it by phone and I'll
talk you through it as I do it myself on my radio while you're doing the
same thing on yours. I plan on sending my radio in for some routine
maintenance in January so don't wait too long!

Hope this helps!

Verne Koester

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dwayne Brown
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:02 PM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Which transmitter?

Verne, please give me a better understanding of setting switches for flight
conditions.  I can understand having 3 flight conditions on a switch but how
do you set up conditions 4 and 5 on another switch?  Is there someplace on
r/c universe where this is explained?  Thanks, Dwayne Brown 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Verne Koester
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:25 PM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Which transmitter?

Paul,

You're used to having a top-end radio like the 9ZAP. I used to have one as
well and used flight conditions similar to what you described. I upgraded to
the 14MZ which has all the features of the 9Z plus some more that make using
flight conditions even easier. The 12Z has everything the 14MZ has minus 2
channels and the fancy screen. I think you'd be very happy with the 12Z. I'm
pretty sure you can download the owner's manual for the 12Z from Futaba's
site if you want to have a look for yourself.

Hope this helps

Verne Koester

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hepworth
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 4:04 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Which transmitter?

Which transmitter?

I am currently using a Futaba 9zap WC2 with a 2.4 module.  I am thinking
about changing my transmitter to something more current. 

The problem I face is that I use many of the functions in the WC2 and I
don't want to lose any of them with out spending a large amount of money on
a Futaba 14mz.  They are many transmitters on the market that may work for
me but I am having a hard time find which transmitters have the functions I
am looking for.  It is not as simple as asking in the local hobby store,
they don't seam to understand how conditions are used for in a fixed wing
aircraft and the websites are not to clear and it's not like I can try them
all! 

I'm sure they are many people on this list are familiar with the use of
conditions, ATV, Expo, duel rates, switch/stick assignment.  

I'm looking at achieving the following conditions:

Regular flight: 

Basic functions e.g. ATV, Expo, Ail diff, Rud to Ele, Rud to Ali, P mixs,
Ailvator. Timer (timer assigned to throttle starts above 5%) All these would
be copied into the other conditions and adjustments are made as followed.

Spin condition: Adjust ATV and Expo.

Snap condition: Adjust ATV, Expo and duel rates turning on/off on throttle
stick within the snap condition. I use this to increase/decrease my control
throws at the lower 10% of my throttle for down line snaps.  

Hammer Condition: Adjust ATV (including throttle) and Expo.

3D condition (IMAC): Adjust ATV and Expo.

I like to have all my conditions assigned to two, 3 point switches on the
left side of the transmitter.

I case of flying a foamy I like to assign one, 3 point switch to the left
side for all the dual rates. (I hate haven to flick three switches to change
the rates for all three control surfaces) 

I have been looking at the following transmitters but I don't know what they
have to offer, I hope someone can list what they do and don't have?

Spektrum DX8, JR 11x, JR 12x, Futaba 12FG and Futaba 12Z.

The about may sound a little longwinded but I hope someone can help.

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