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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks, Dwayne</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Verne Koester<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 24, 2010
1:59 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Which transmitter?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color="#1f497d"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>As
someone else pointed out, the conditions toward the bottom of the list takes
precedence over anything above it on the list. The condition select screen
allows you to move your various conditions around on the priority list. The
final test to show yourself it’s working is to turn on a flight
condition. On the main screen, you’ll see what condition you’re in.
Now, without turning off that condition, flip the switch on a condition
that’s lower on the list and see if that shows on the main screen.
You’ll see that the higher priority (lower on the list) condition has
superseded the other condition you had turned on. When you turn off the
condition you just turned on, you’ll now see that it’s gone back to
the original condition you had turned on. When all the conditions are shut off,
it goes back to the default condition which is first on the list and therefore
the lowest priority condition. I’d suggest you use meaningful names for
your conditions like “snap”, “spin”, “flight”,
“normal”, etc. That way you have no doubt what you programmed any
given condition for. </span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>My
radio starts off in “normal” which activates my controller and has
reduced rudder for takeoff. As soon as I lift off, I hit the switch that
activated retracts in the old days. That’s my “flight” condition
which is where I’m at for most of my flight. The “flight”
condition activates my countdown timer, puts my rudder back to full throw, and
bumps up the throttle trim a little for stalls, etc. The “flight”
condition is the one I generally copy when creating a new condition because it
has the base expo and throw rates that work for me 90% of the time. The
advantage is that I’ll have less adjustments to make when I’m
creating a new condition for snaps, spins, or whatever. Obviously, you’d
only want to create a condition if you actually need it for a particular
maneuver. If your plane snaps great in your “flight” condition,
there’s no need to have a snap condition and that’s one less switch
to turn on and off during your flight.</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Verne</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dwayne Brown<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 24, 2010
12:10 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Which transmitter?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Verne, if I have FL01 set
on a switch and FL04 set on another switch which on takes precedence?
Dwayne</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Verne Koester<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 23, 2010
5:26 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Which transmitter?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=5 color="#1f497d"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Dwayne,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=5 color="#1f497d"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>The
answer is so simple it makes me wonder if I’m actually answering what
you’re asking. Whenever you set up a flight condition, you go to the
condition select screen. Create (add) the condition from scratch or by copying
an existing condition (better choice) and name your new condition. When you
highlight your new condition, you’ll see a null button. Press on that and
you’ll go to a screen where you pick the switch, stick, knob, or slider
you want to use to activate the condition. After you pick the switch, click on
the “on-position” button which takes you to another screen to set
what position the switch needs to be in to activate the condition. With a
3-position switch, you can make one switch position activate Condition #4 and
the other switch position would activate Condition #5 if you choose. The third
switch position shuts both conditions off. I hope I’ve explained this in
a way you can understand. If we did this in person on the actual radio, it
would be a lot easier to just show you. You’ll also want to pay attention
to the Condition Priority settings because that determines which condition will
prevail if you have the switches turned on for two different conditions. </span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>When
I first got going with my 14 MZ, I just created a model and kept going back and
forth between the manual (which isn’t the greatest) and the radio and
kept trying stuff until I understood it. One thing I quickly learned is to just
focus on the stuff I actually want. There are simply way too many features to
remember them all. I’ve had mine since they first came out and
there’s still stuff I don’t know how to set up but I don’t
care because those are features I don’t want or need. If you’re
still having trouble, send me a private e-mail and we can arrange to go over it
by phone and I’ll talk you through it as I do it myself on my radio while
you’re doing the same thing on yours. I plan on sending my radio in for some
routine maintenance in January so don’t wait too long!</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=5 color="#1f497d"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Hope
this helps!</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Verne
Koester</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dwayne Brown<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 23, 2010
3:02 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Which transmitter?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Verne,
please give me a better understanding of setting switches for flight
conditions. I can understand having 3 flight conditions on a switch but
how do you set up conditions 4 and 5 on another switch? Is there
someplace on r/c universe where this is explained? Thanks, Dwayne Brown </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Verne Koester<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 22, 2010
10:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Which transmitter?</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Paul,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=5 color="#1f497d"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>You’re
used to having a top-end radio like the 9ZAP. I used to have one as well and
used flight conditions similar to what you described. I upgraded to the 14MZ
which has all the features of the 9Z plus some more that make using flight
conditions even easier. The 12Z has everything the 14MZ has minus 2 channels
and the fancy screen. I think you’d be very happy with the 12Z. I’m
pretty sure you can download the owner’s manual for the 12Z from
Futaba’s site if you want to have a look for yourself.</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Hope
this helps</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Verne
Koester</span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Paul Hepworth<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 22, 2010
4:04 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion] Which
transmitter?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Which transmitter?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am currently using a Futaba 9zap WC2 with a 2.4
module. I am thinking about changing my transmitter to something more
current. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The problem I face is that I use many of the functions
in the WC2 and I don’t want to lose any of them with out spending a large
amount of money on a Futaba 14mz. They are many transmitters on the
market that may work for me but I am having a hard time find which transmitters
have the functions I am looking for. It is not as simple as asking in the
local hobby store, they don’t seam to understand how conditions are used
for in a fixed wing aircraft and the websites are not to clear and it’s
not like I can try them all! </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I’m sure they are many people on this list are
familiar with the use of conditions, ATV, Expo, duel rates, switch/stick
assignment. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I’m looking at achieving the following
conditions:</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><b><u><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Regular
flight</span></font></u></b>: </p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Basic functions e.g. ATV, Expo, Ail diff, Rud to Ele,
Rud to Ali, P mixs, Ailvator. Timer (timer assigned to throttle starts above
5%) All these would be copied into the other conditions and adjustments are
made as followed.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><b><u><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Spin
condition:</span></font></u></b> Adjust ATV and Expo.</p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><b><u><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Snap
condition:</span></font></u></b> Adjust ATV, Expo and duel rates turning on/off
on throttle stick within the snap condition. I use this to increase/decrease my
control throws at the lower 10% of my throttle for down line snaps. </p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><b><u><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Hammer
Condition:</span></font></u></b> Adjust ATV (including throttle) and Expo.</p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><b><u><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>3D
condition (IMAC): </span></font></u></b>Adjust ATV and Expo.</p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I like to have all my conditions assigned to two, 3
point switches on the left side of the transmitter.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I case of flying a foamy I like to assign one, 3 point
switch to the left side for all the dual rates. (I hate haven to flick three
switches to change the rates for all three control surfaces) </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have been looking at the following transmitters but
I don’t know what they have to offer, I hope someone can list what they
do and don’t have?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Spektrum DX8, JR 11x, JR 12x, Futaba 12FG and Futaba
12Z.</span></font></p>
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