[NSRCA-discussion] Full scale bipe vs RC plane

Keith Hoard khoard at gmail.com
Fri Aug 20 05:08:41 AKDT 2010


Same thing happened at Mac Hodges field a few years ago.  I believe it was
Friday warm-ups, and this guy in a Bonanza came out of nowhere with a low
pass down the runway.

Unfortunately, if you're flying at an uncontrolled field and nobody is
talking on the radio all you have is "see and avoid" . . .

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Bob Richards <bob at toprudder.com> wrote:

> I watched the video last night, but now the video has been "removed by the
> user".  I wonder if everyone is trying to keep this quiet now. The video
> will probably end up being evidence in an investigation.
>
> Someone is at fault. Hard to tell who. From watching the video, and from
> the description below, I doubt the model flyer was at fault since it
> appeared that he had permission, and the runway was supposed to be shut down
> - I think he had every right to assume it was safe for him to fly. When told
> to fly away, he did.
>
> Very lucky that no one was hurt.
>
> As model pilots, what can we learn from this? Always have a spotter. Not
> someone standing there saying "wow, bring it down lower" but someone with
> their head on a swivel watching out for traffic.
>
> I was flying a model at a private grass strip years ago and had just taken
> off. A guy drove up, got into his Pitts biplane and took off - he knew I was
> there. I thought it would be no problem, I just turned around and flew away
> from the runway. But, after he took off, he made a big circle and buzzed the
> field. Luckily, I had someone telling me what he was doing. I had to fly my
> model almost down into the tree tops to get out of his way. If anything had
> happened, I would have felt like it would have been the other guy's fault,
> but I'm sure the media would have reported it in such a way that model
> airplanes would have gotten a bad rap, which is what will probably happen
> now.
>
> Bob R.
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, Bill's Email <wemodels at cox.net>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Bill's Email <wemodels at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Full scale bipe vs RC plane
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:46 AM
>
> mike mueller wrote:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3GHqMObjcM&feature=player_embedded#!
> >  I've seen this but I can't figure out why they were allowing RC planes
> to fly on an active runway. This seems like total kaos. Mike
> Here is what I know about it:
>
> The location was Brighton Van-Aire airport (CO12) north of Denver.
> This is an uncontrolled field. There are no requirements for radios or any
> communications.
> There are no ATC personnel or facilities involved in operations at this
> airport.
> It happened during a charity event being held at the privately owned
> airpark (people have hangars at their homes).
> The biplane pilot lives there. He reportedly landed and parked his plane in
> his hangar after the incident.
> The RC plane was flying a planned demo.
> The fellow with the radio was the "airboss" for the event.
> He has no official powers or authority.
> The biplane required no clearance or permission to land or make the low
> pass.
> A NOTAM was not filed for the event.
> The biplane was damaged. (not sure to what extent)
> Nobody was injured.
> Incident reports have been filed with the FAA and NTSB.
>
> This is gleaned from a number of sources, including several threads on RCU,
> Flying Giants, and the AMA forum.
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Keith Hoard
Collierville, TN
khoard at gmail.com
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