[NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs IMAC

Fri Sep 25 11:17:10 AKDT 2009

Didn't we go through this last year?

We also now have a new web site that use a CMS (Jooma)  and a database
(MySQL). Why not use them?

Jay Marshall 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Chale
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:48 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs IMAC

I have been playing with their software "score"  It is available from the
IMAC site.  The program produces the reports in the same format that you see
on the site as well as the standings sheet that you would post  at a contest
(same format).  I think this works so well because everyone uses the same
software.  The full contest results including individual scores etc were on
the site 2 days after the contest.  The software is easy to use and with the
individual maneuver scores posted allows you to recreate the contest or a
round to see "what if"  I didn't 0 the spin or flop the stall turn.  How
would the results have changed.  (Yes I admit it I did that.  I got a 0 on
a few spins).  I have not played with PACSS in  along time so I do not know
if it produces the same output.
The results are output onto several html pages (already formatted)  that can
be just uploaded to our site with an HTML page listing the contests linking
to the results as they have done.  
Here is a test that I did with 2 flyers entered into the Score program.
IMAC has 2 sequences per flight but the software can output 1 or 2.  
The contest results page would have a link to this page (just a test)
http://angelsonly.com/scoretest/report_results.html
>From there you can click on individual pilots etc.  I am not sure if the
regional point leaders are done manually or automatically.

Stuart

Derek Koopowitz wrote: 

Rather than forcing each CD to use the same scoring software all we need to
do is come up with a standard reporting format that we can use to upload
data and then the various scoring programs can be modified to create this
data file and for the CD to send it to a central location.

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Gene Maurice
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:21 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs IMAC

PACSS already creates a couple of different export files, individual
contestant results an contest results in csv format. It also has the
capability of uploading to a web site. Currently it uploads the entire
database to an FTP directory on the PACSS web site. 

BTW, AMA number is the key in the system 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Atwood, Mark
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:36 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs IMAC

This is actually a pretty amazing site and we would do extremely well to try
and pursue something like this.   I have to believe that Jim could create
the export file from PACSS very easily.the trick will be how that gets
uploaded.  We would need to use AMA numbers as a unique ID for each Pilot so
we don't end up with 4 misspellings of the same person, but that would be
simple

The best part is all the data that would be available to the pilot.
National and regional averages on a maneuver by maneuver basis.  It would be
nice for analyzing your own scores.

The contest registration could be huge too, though I can see the downside in
that a contest that has poor early registration, may end up with even less
attendance since that might dissuade even more from coming, but overall it
would be a tremendous asset.

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Keith Black
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:37 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs IMAC

That is awesome!  I wonder if we could borrow some of the technology from
them to do that for pattern?

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Stuart Chale <schale at optonline.net> wrote:

I love the way the question I posed about adding an unkown to pattern has
morphed into multiple topics, currently world championship judging :)

One other nice idea that IMAC has implemented is in their contest management
software.  As a member of the web team I would love to see us be able to do
something similar (I have no idea what is involved).  I am sure this feature
brings a lot more use to their website than we get.  Like we have, all of
their contests are listed from their website.  However you can sign up for
any contest in a uniform manner.  Some of our districts did or does have
this feature but it is not uniformly implemented.  You can also see who is
registered for a contest, how many people are going, how many in each class,
etc.  Once the contest is complete the scoring program that they use
generates a report that gets uploaded to the web as results for that
contest.  This is a very interesting feature.  Final results with round
scores including dropped rounds etc are posted.  If you click on your name
or any pilot you will see all of their individual scores for the contest.
No need to rummage through scoring sheets to find yours.  You can see how
you scored in each maneuver through the contest or compared to other fliers.
An example of their contest results page.
http://www.mini-iac.com/Regions/NorthCentral/NCContestResults/tabid/101/Defa
ult.aspx

Stuart

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