[NSRCA-discussion] unknowns

Don Ramsey don.ramsey at suddenlink.net
Wed Sep 23 10:19:17 AKDT 2009


Matt,
 
You will be disappointed to know that all the World Judges want to have
rolling circles.  I objected strongly and thought I made a good argument;
loss of fields, over houses, too much real estate, etc.  But, they still
want the rolling circles in all future patterns and especially F patterns.
It sure limits the number of fields that can fly those patterns unless the
pilots decide to roll in.
 
Don
 
 
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It seems to me that we keep "learning" the same lessons but some just never
get the memo. Rolling circles are very neat differentiating maneuvers BUT
not desirable in neither IMAC nor Pattern circles. They simply consume too
much real estate and contradict the very essence of why we in Pattern moved
to quiet our models. Noise reduction footprint was at the core of that
effort some 25 years ago.
 
As my good friend Dean Pappas and I have discussed on many occasions,
rolling loops, segments, variations, etc. are just as neat as circles and
consume no more footprint than the typical schedule would. Oh BTW, these are
far less difficult to judge objectively
 
MattK
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com>
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Sent: Tue, Sep 22, 2009 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns
It's funny.  I brought my 40% Carden out of mothballs last weekend to work
on the F3M stuff and all I wanted to do was fly it like a pattern airplane.
Ofcourse it doesn't quite measure up, but I found that I really have no
enthusiasm left for wapping through rolls where the only skill involved is
being able to stop on time.  I admit, on the last flight of the day I
digressed and did about 10 minutes of 3d-ish garbage, until I finally
realized that it was really not very satisfying.  Foamies are more fun these
days than knocking the sticks around on a 40 % gasser.   I guess I'm just
getting old...
 
Ed
 
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:44:06 -0700
> From: seefo at san.rr.com
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns
> 
> Vince,
> 
> The "Slow Roll" in IAC does not equate to a pattern slow roll. The IAC 
> Slow Roll is just a roll, and the term slow is used to differentiate it 
> from a point roll or snap roll. In truth, the IAC slow roll is never 
> flown at anything but maximum roll rate available.
> 
> -Doug
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> >
> > Yes, partial rolling circles are introduced in the Intermediate 
> > class. As we know, there is not way to do rollers by rolling fast. 
> > IMAC is missing to introduce the slow roll in Sportsman's class. I am 
> > not sure why since IAC includes the slow roll.
> >
> > 
> >
> 
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