[NSRCA-discussion] unknowns

[Woodward, Jim (US SSA)]

Jim,

There is no description on when to start or end the ½ roll.  However, if try to get to cute with it, and stop the roll rate, you will be subject to the 0.5 point per 5 degree rule for the remainder of the roll.  Most guys fly it as a medium roll rate across the top.
Jim W.



From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of J N Hiller
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:12 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns

This has been an informative discussion. I started trying to fly the Sportsman sequence yesterday. Maneuver #3 is an inside loop with a half roll over the top, exit inverted. This appears to be an integrated half roll through 90 degrees of arc.
Am I reading this correctly?
Is the maneuver flight detail spelled out somewhere that I could reference?
Thanks
Jim Hiller

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Vicente "Vince" Bortone
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:43 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns


Doug,



You are correct.  I just wanted to say that there is a maneuvers called slow roll that is not mention in the IMAC rule book.  I got the description from the IAC web site.  Here the description:



Slow rolls have to be flown normally on a straight line (exception is the avalanche). The roll rate has to be constant and the longitudinal axis of the plane has to go straight. This requires constantly changing rudder and elevator control inputs throughout the roll.



I wonder how this maneuver is judged.  Base on the description it is required to use rudder and elevator.  I suspect that the judge has the authority to downgrade if the pilots is trying to avoid using rudder and elevator during the roll.  I really don't know how this is done in the real planes but I will guess that a pilot will try to do slower roll rate to get maximum points.  Again, I could be wrong in my interpretation and I am sure that you will know more details.

Vicente "Vince" Bortone

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Cronkhite" <seefo at san.rr.com>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:44:06 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns

Vince,

The "Slow Roll" in IAC does not equate to a pattern slow roll. The IAC
Slow Roll is just a roll, and the term slow is used to differentiate it
from a point roll or snap roll. In truth, the IAC slow roll is never
flown at anything but maximum roll rate available.

-Doug



>
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> Yes, partial rolling circles are introduced in the Intermediate
> class.  As we know, there is not way to do rollers by rolling fast.
> IMAC is missing to introduce the slow roll in Sportsman's class.  I am
> not sure why since IAC includes the slow roll.
>
>
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