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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There is no description on when to start or end the ½ roll. However,
if try to get to cute with it, and stop the roll rate, you will be subject to
the 0.5 point per 5 degree rule for the remainder of the roll. Most guys fly
it as a medium roll rate across the top.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jim W.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>J N
Hiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>This
has been an informative discussion. I started trying to fly the Sportsman
sequence yesterday. Maneuver #3 is an inside loop with a half roll over the
top, exit inverted. This appears to be an integrated half roll through 90
degrees of arc. <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Am I
reading this correctly? <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Is
the maneuver flight detail spelled out somewhere that I could reference?<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jim
Hiller<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vicente
"Vince" Bortone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Doug,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>You are correct. I just wanted to say that there is a
maneuvers called slow roll that is not mention in the IMAC rule
book. I got the description from the IAC web site. Here the
description:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"FranklinGothic-Heavy","serif";color:black'>Slow rolls </span></strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"FranklinGothic-Heavy","serif";color:black'>have
to be flown normally on a straight line (exception is the avalanche). The roll
rate has to be constant and the longitudinal axis of the plane has to go
straight. <strong><span style='font-family:"FranklinGothic-Heavy","serif"'>This
requires constantly changing rudder and elevator control inputs throughout the
roll. </span></strong><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"FranklinGothic-Heavy","serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"FranklinGothic-Heavy","serif";
color:black'>I wonder how this maneuver is judged. Base on the
description it is required to use rudder and elevator. I suspect
that the judge has the authority to downgrade if the pilots is trying to avoid
using rudder and elevator during the roll. I really don't know how
this is done in the real planes but I will guess that a pilot will try to
do slower roll rate to get maximum points. Again, I could be
wrong in my interpretation and I am sure that you will know more
details. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"FranklinGothic-Heavy","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><br>
Vicente "Vince" Bortone<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Doug Cronkhite" <seefo@san.rr.com><br>
To: "General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:44:06 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] unknowns<br>
<br>
Vince,<br>
<br>
The "Slow Roll" in IAC does not equate to a pattern slow roll. The
IAC <br>
Slow Roll is just a roll, and the term slow is used to differentiate it <br>
from a point roll or snap roll. In truth, the IAC slow roll is never <br>
flown at anything but maximum roll rate available.<br>
<br>
-Doug<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> <br>
><br>
> Yes, partial rolling circles are introduced in the Intermediate <br>
> class. As we know, there is not way to do rollers by rolling fast.
<br>
> IMAC is missing to introduce the slow roll in Sportsman's class. I
am <br>
> not sure why since IAC includes the slow roll.<br>
><br>
> <br>
><br>
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