[NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . . . . .

[Ron Van Putte]

September 10th to 19th .

Ron VP

On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Anthony Frackowiak wrote:

> Hi Ron,
>
> What were the dates for the 1999 WC?
>
> Tony
>
> On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Ron Van Putte wrote:
>
>> Mike Mueller said, "Will finding volunteers be difficult? No  
>> doubt. Can we do it all? I'm pretty confident but it won't be easy  
>> and we need people to be understanding and flexable."
>>
>> I think Tony Stillman will agree that, if we could get the  
>> country's R/C aerobatics pilots to come to an old Navy field on  
>> the Gulf Coast near Navarre, Florida and perform all the "skill  
>> jobs" required to run an F3A World Championships, like we did in  
>> 1999, I think we can handle putting on one in Muncie in 2011.
>>
>> BTW, CPLR was there in 1999, and it is worth watching him fly.
>>
>> Ron Van Putte
>> 1999 F3A WC co-CD
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:47 AM, mike mueller wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys just a chime in and a perspective.
>>> I first heard about the proposed dates at the NSRCA officers  
>>> meeting held at the Nats.
>>> My initial reaction was how cool it will be that we will have 2  
>>> events back to back and what a privilege it is to host the worlds.
>>> I know that Derek has been busting his tail and doing his  
>>> homework to get this done so I support him.
>>> So after some thought I've come to the conclusion that this is a  
>>> pretty workable solution if all the logistics can be worked out  
>>> with the AMA and event conflicts.
>>> To the best of my knowledge there have been talks with Don Cherry  
>>> of the AMA and I think for the most part the preliminary schedule  
>>> is pretty close to what's going to happen.
>>> Someone had to take the ball here and make some decisions. I'm  
>>> thinking that this is Derek's and the AMA's plan. Question is  
>>> what would you have done if you were the leader of our organization?
>>> I think it was Doug who made the statement that the Worlds are a  
>>> priority.
>>> He's right to a degree. We have been chosen to host the best  
>>> flyers in the world and this has to be #1 on the list of things  
>>> to accomplish in 2011. I will re access my personal needs and  
>>> align myself with the task at hand. If I get lucky I get to do  
>>> both the end of the worlds and compete in the Nats. Time and  
>>> personal situations will dictate.
>>> Will the worlds hurt the Nats? Probably. Will finding volunteers  
>>> be difficult? No doubt. Can we do it all? I'm pretty confident  
>>> but it won't be easy and we need people to be understanding and  
>>> flexable.
>>> I can't wait to see CLPR for myself.
>>> Thanks for letting me air my thoughts. Mike Mueller D5VP
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 9/2/09, krishlan fitzsimmons  
>>> <homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: krishlan fitzsimmons <homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at  
>>>> Muncie . . . . .
>>>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 10:58 PM
>>>> Tony,
>>>>
>>>> This has been discussed quite a bit previous to this
>>>> conversation on the officers list quite some time ago. Derek
>>>> has done a huge amount of work to make this happen as you
>>>> must know. I believe it had been discussed with the ama, and
>>>> therefore the reason for the rough dates that we have. I
>>>> could be wrong, but this is my recollection.
>>>>
>>>> I know it seems odd to you, as it did me at first, but I
>>>> haven't been on the team before as you, nor have I ever
>>>> had the chance to witness a "Worlds" as you have.
>>>> This is my chance to see it. If it's right before the
>>>> nats, that's great timing for me. And many that were
>>>> asked, feel this way.
>>>>
>>>> It is wished by many of us that the nats date didn't
>>>> have to be moved, but soaring could move up a week, and so
>>>> on to make room for the worlds. The nats
>>>> will be poorly attended if the two are separated IMO. A
>>>> lot of people may want to see the worlds competition.
>>>> If they are separated, not many of us will be able to
>>>> attend. Just my opinion though. Not discounting yours. I
>>>> agree with you about it being hard to find a hotel, but I
>>>> don't think any of the competitors will stick around for
>>>> a local nats as they just flew the worlds. I would think our
>>>> own worlds team may not attend the nats right after. Maybe
>>>> the current team could chime in if they read this to say if
>>>> they would have stuck around for a local nats in Portugal
>>>> the week after the worlds.
>>>>
>>>> Think about a rotating nats. If it was held somewhere else
>>>> in the country, the dates would most likely vary up to a
>>>> month either way.
>>>>
>>>> Not arguing with you here. This is said in a calm tone.
>>>> Just conversing.
>>>>
>>>> You coming to Hollister?
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From:
>>>> Anthony Frackowiak <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: General
>>>> pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent:
>>>> Wednesday, September 2, 2009 8:32:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>> [NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . .
>>>> . . .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Derek,
>>>> Maybe I'm coming in late to this discussion,
>>>> and for that I apologize. But I would like to ask a few more
>>>> questions just for clarification.
>>>> You have stated before that the Pattern Nats for
>>>> 2011 won't be scheduled until October of 2010. Has there
>>>> been any serious discussion with the AMA about the 2011
>>>> Pattern Nats and if it will even be possible to do what you
>>>> are stating? Can they can even be held after the WC? It
>>>> would seem that this will take a monumental shift in the
>>>> Center schedule.
>>>> Are the dates that you have put out for the
>>>> WC's the only alternative right now? Do we even have the
>>>> option of moving them later?
>>>> Thanks for your reply!
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Derek Koopowitz
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Fluid meaning that the
>>>> dates could move a few days forward or backward... yes,
>>>> absolutely.   Cast in concrete -
>>>> when the 1st bulletin gets mailed out.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:24
>>>> PM, Anthony Frackowiak <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  No it has not been
>>>> worked out. You are saying your dates for the WC are fluid,
>>>> and the dates for the 2011 Nats are not set even
>>>> tentatively. So there is a lot in the air.
>>>> Tony
>>>>   On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:15 PM,
>>>> Derek Koopowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually it had been all worked out
>>>> until "everyone" started chiming in as to their
>>>> preference for when the wc should be held and the Nats
>>>> should be held... can't please all the people.
>>>>  LOL
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009
>>>> at 4:07 PM, Anthony Frackowiak <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  I absolutely agree.
>>>> IRCHA will not move their dates unless forced to by the AMA.
>>>> And I doubt the AMA will do so.
>>>> I find it hard to believe that this has not
>>>> been worked out yet.
>>>> Tony
>>>>     On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:00
>>>> PM, Bill's Email wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anthony Frackowiak wrote: Archie is absolutely correct.
>>>> Tony
>>>>  On Sep 2, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Archie Stafford
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  IRCHA is a totally
>>>> different animal though.  Kind of like having Joe Nall
>>>> after the pattern worlds.  I’d say most people really
>>>> didn’t
>>>> care about the F3C worlds.  IRCHA does a lot more 3D
>>>> stuff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And my point was that attracting 900 paid participants to
>>>> an event is going to give them some clout when it comes to a
>>>> schedule relative to the pattern NATS. The WC are a
>>>> different thing, but IRCHA is not likely to budge for the
>>>> pattern NATS if it came to that.
>>>>
>>>>
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