[NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . . . . .

Wed Sep 2 12:57:13 AKDT 2009

This is interesting.  Here my opinion.  I think we will have more pilots attending the Nats because they want to go and see the WC and "kill to birds with one shot".  If the events are going to be in separate dates in the same year I will need to attend only one.  That probably will be the WC for obvious reasons.  I will plan to arrive to Muncie for the semi-finals and stay there until we finish the Nats .  That sounds a very good plan to me.  

Vicente "Vince" Bortone 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Atwood" < atwoodm @paragon-inc.com> 
To: "General pattern discussion" < nsrca -discussion at lists. nsrca .org> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 3:40:05 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ NSRCA -discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . . .        . . 

I think we need to be careful changing the Nat's dates.  It's been in mid July for the 20 years that I've been flying Pattern.  Moving it has some significant impact.   Those that regularly attend plan most of their summer around it.  Contests all over the country plan around it.   

I partially agree with Doug that we need to put some emphasis on the WC, but not to the complete detriment of the rest of the pattern community.  Keeping our schedule and our Nats allows all the other competitors to have a "normal" year with the added bonus of being able to attend the WC if their time and budget allows.  If we completely disrupt everything, you may find that you not only have a horrible turn out at the Nats , but some resentment towards helping out at the WC too, and that I would certainly hate to see. 

Having them back to back almost forces people to pick one or the other. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: nsrca -discussion-bounces at lists. nsrca .org [ mailto : nsrca -discussion-bounces at lists. nsrca .org] On Behalf Of Jay Marshall 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 4:31 PM 
To: 'General pattern discussion' 
Subject: Re: [ NSRCA -discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . . . . . 

This may be the year to move the Pattern NATS out of Muncie , and at a later 
date? 

Jay Marshall 

-----Original Message----- 
From: nsrca -discussion-bounces at lists. nsrca .org 
[ mailto : nsrca -discussion-bounces at lists. nsrca .org] On Behalf Of 
seefo @ san . rr .com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:29 PM 
To: General pattern discussion 
Subject: Re: [ NSRCA -discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . . . 
. . 

We bid on, and won the right to host the WC in 2011. EVERYTHING ELSE must 
take a back seat to that event. The WC must be the priority and concessions 
or compromises to the WC due to the Nats simply cannot happen. If people 
can't fly in the Nats AND work the WC, then they shouldn't fly in the Nats . 

IMO they should be completely separate, unrelated calendar events. If you 
try to shoehorn them into one long stretch, something will lose out. Either 
Nats competitors won't be able to practice, or worse, WC competitors won't 
because of people practicing for the Nats . 

Do the WC right, so that people will leave with a great memory of Muncie , 
the AMA, the NSRCA , and their time spent here in the USA. 

-Doug 

---- Derek Koopowitz < derekkoopowitz @ gmail .com> wrote: 
> This would mean double travel expense for many people that would 
potentially 
> work at the event and compete at the Nats .  Coming early to watch the 
semis 
> and finals means arriving 3 days before the Nats ... most Nats competitors 
> arrive 1 to 2 days before the Nats anyway and practice at local sites so 
> they'd be around to watch the most important flying part of the WC's 
anyway. 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Anthony Frackowiak 
< frackowiak @ sbcglobal .net 
> > wrote: 
> 
> > I sincerely hope that this idea is changed. Moving the Nats after the 
World 
> > Championships will greatly reduce the attendance at the Nats . I think it 
> > would be better to schedule the Worlds in September. 
> > Tony 
> > 
> > 
> >  On Sep 1, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Derek Koopowitz wrote: 
> > 
> >    That is correct. come and see the semis and finals of the Worlds and 
> > then stay and compete in the pattern Nats . the idea is that we can 
hopefully 
> > entice some of the world's competitors to fly in our Nationals as well. 
> > 
> > 
> >  *From:* nsrca -discussion-bounces at lists. nsrca .org [ 
> > 
mailto : nsrca -discussion-bounces at lists. nsrca .org< nsrca -discussion-bounces@ lis 
ts. nsrca .org> 
> > ] *On Behalf Of *Bob Kane 
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:27 PM 
> > *To:* General pattern discussion 
> > *Subject:* Re: [ NSRCA -discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie 
. 
> > . . . .. 
> > 
> >  I also heard the pattern NATS will be held after the Worlds? 
> > 
> > Bob Kane 
> > getterflash @yahoo.com 
> > 
> > 
> >  ------------------------------ 
> >  *From:* Derek Koopowitz < derekkoopowitz @ gmail .com> 
> > *To:* General pattern discussion < nsrca -discussion at lists. nsrca .org> 
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 4:07:33 PM 
> > *Subject:* Re: [ NSRCA -discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie 
. 
> > . . . .. 
> >  Tentative schedule is as follows: 
> > 
> > 
> >    - Monday July 25th 2011 Processing and Official Practice Day 
> >    - Tuesday July 26th 2011 Opening Ceremony and Official Practice Day 
> >    - Wednesday July 27th 2011 Preliminaries Day 1 
> >    - Thursday July 28th 2011 Preliminaries Day 2 
> >    - Friday July 29th 2011 Preliminaries Day 3 
> >    - Saturday July 30th 2011 Preliminaries Day 4 
> >    - Sunday July 31st 2011 Reserved for preliminaries if necessary 
> >    - Monday August 1st 2011 Semi-Finals 
> >    - Tuesday August 2nd 2011 Finals and Closing Ceremony and Banquet 
> >    - Wednesday August 3rd 2011 Departure of Contestants 
> > 
> > 
> >  On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bob Kane < getterflash @yahoo.com> 
wrote: 
> >  . . . . . .   do we know the dates yet? 
> > 
> >  Bob Kane 
> > getterflash @yahoo.com 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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