[NSRCA-discussion] How I became an expert Snap Judge (TIC)

Dave Burton burtona at atmc.net
Tue Oct 13 16:43:51 AKDT 2009


yes

 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
Frederick
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:24 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] How I became an expert Snap Judge (TIC)

 

OK, seeing as how the argument over interpretation of the FAI rule seems to
have stopped, yet the AMA rule argument continues, I would like to make a
motion that we switch the AMA rule to be identical to the FAI rule. Anyone
second that?

 

Matt

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bob Richards <mailto:bob at toprudder.com>  

To: General pattern discussion <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:02 PM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] How I became an expert Snap Judge (TIC)

 


Well, what anyone's personal opinion on what a maneuver should look like
should be irrelevant.   No one should judge based on their personal
opinion(s), they should judge based on the rules criteria.  I know, I know,
easier said than done. :-)

 

If the rules say a pitch break must occur, we must downgrade if it is not
seen, whether we agree with it or not. When the snap occurs from level
flight in a centered maneuver, the break is easy to see. From knife-edge or
at the end of the box - not so easy to see, maybe impossible in some
instances (certain light conditions, etc). 

 

At the last contest my son and I attended (his first contest, flying
Sportsman) I noticed how difficult it was to judge the track of the vertical
upline - a very easy maneuver to describe and to fly, but with the sun in
our faces the only way to judge if the upline did not lean in or out was to
wait until the model pushed over on the top.

 

That is part of what I am saying, the maneuver schedule should, if possible,
be chosen to minimize the difficulty of a person to judge the maneuver.
Don't make it any harder to judge than need be. Make it as hard to fly as
you want, just don't increase the judging difficulty in the process.

 

A big part of the problem in judging snaps is that it occurs quickly, and
there is not much time to think about what just happened because the snap is
never the last element in a maneuver. You must continue counting and keeping
track of point deductions. My short-term memory gets worse as I get older.
:-(  In fact, my memory is about as long as my....  my.....  uhh... I
forget....

 

Bob R.

 

 


--- On Tue, 10/13/09, verne at twmi.rr.com <verne at twmi.rr.com> wrote:

 

Is there anybody involved in this discussion that honestly can't recognize a
snap when they see one? I'm just asking.....

Verne



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