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color:#1F497D'>yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew
Frederick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] How I became an expert Snap Judge (TIC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>OK, seeing as how the argument over interpretation of the
FAI rule seems to have stopped, yet the AMA rule argument continues,
I would like to make a motion that we switch the AMA rule to be
identical to the FAI rule. Anyone second that?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Matt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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title="bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Tuesday, October 13,
2009 7:02 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
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[NSRCA-discussion] How I became an expert Snap Judge (TIC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Well, what anyone's personal opinion on what a maneuver should
look like should be irrelevant. No one should judge based on
their personal opinion(s), they should judge based on the rules
criteria. I know, I know, easier said than done. :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>If the rules say a pitch break must occur, we must downgrade
if it is not seen, whether we agree with it or not. When the snap occurs from
level flight in a centered maneuver, the break is easy to see. From
knife-edge or at the end of the box - not so easy to see, maybe impossible in
some instances (certain light conditions, etc). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>At the last contest my son and I attended (his first
contest, flying Sportsman) I noticed how difficult it was to judge the track
of the vertical upline - a very easy maneuver to describe and to fly, but
with the sun in our faces the only way to judge if the upline did not lean in
or out was to wait until the model pushed over on the top.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>That is part of what I am saying, the maneuver schedule
should, if possible, be chosen to minimize the difficulty of a person to
judge the maneuver. Don't make it any harder to judge than need be. Make it
as hard to fly as you want, just don't increase the judging difficulty in the
process.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>A big part of the problem in judging snaps is that it
occurs quickly, and there is not much time to think about what just
happened because the snap is never the last element in a maneuver. You must
continue counting and keeping track of point deductions. My short-term memory
gets worse as I get older. :-( In fact, my memory is about as long as
my.... my..... uhh... I forget....<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Bob R.<o:p></o:p></p>
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--- On <b>Tue, 10/13/09, verne@twmi.rr.com <i><verne@twmi.rr.com></i></b>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Is there anybody involved in
this discussion that honestly can't recognize a snap when they see one? I'm
just asking.....<br>
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Verne<br>
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