[NSRCA-discussion] 12X Failure

[glmiller3 at suddenlink.net]

Vince, 

I thought the 12X came with NiMh batts.

How are eneloop's different?

G
---- "Vicente \"Vince\" Bortone" <vicenterc at comcast.net> wrote: 

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Try NiMh eneloop cells.  They are 2000 mah .  I am not sure how much the 12X requires.  If the battery cassette is equal to the 10X they will fit inside the cassette .  These cells behaves similar to LiPo in regard the self discharge when not used.    

Vicente "Vince" Bortone 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: glmiller3@ suddenlink .net 
To: "General pattern discussion" < nsrca -discussion at lists. nsrca .org> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 6:34:42 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12X Failure 

Troy, 

I just actually read the battery bulletin linked in you note.  I like the 12X battery even less now. 

So I guess in Japan they have 10 hours to sit around their shop continuously monitoring their transmitter batteries temperature and intermittently checking it's actual voltage....well welcome to america- I don't! 

Any one know of a good replacement battery system for the 12 X? 

G 
---- Troy Newman <troy@ troynewman .net> wrote: 

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Try a different TX battery. 

I have heard reports of this screen flashing issue with bad TX 
batteries. It works fine in the system menu because it's not 
transmitting. As soon as it tries to transmit the battery can't handle 
the load. If you have a 10X the battery will fit in the 12X and work 
just fine. 

The PC program is not data safe. Data Safe as a product was a Horizon 
hobby product that was an aftermarket product that saved the program as 
a file on your PC....It was not a JR Japan product. 

The 12X comes with a program that allows you to back up and edit the 
programs on the PC. It came with your 12X as a free accessory. It is 12X 
specific. Works very very well. 

The reason data safe doesn't work is because the 12X was not around when 
Data Safe or Data Safe Ultra was written by a 3rd party vendor. 

By the way the 12X program only does the 12X, but is very cool in that 
you can see and print all settings, and even edit setting right on the 
PC then load it back into the TX. 


JR Japan has another program that has the same look and feel as the 12X 
program, but it works with the older radios. It looks exactly the same 
but because it goes backwards in compatibility it doesn't do the 12X. 

Onto your 12X it's not a bad a idea to have HH check it out, but I would 
bet it's a battery issue. On another note the charger that comes with 
your 12X is not a peak detection charger...even though it kind of looks 
like one and the manual seems to imply that it is. This charger should 
not be used on the 12X battery for than 10hrs. The battery will become 
very hot and will shorten its life. A bulletin was issues earlier this 
year regarding the charger. 

http :// www . horizonhobby .com/Products/Support. aspx ? ProdID =JRP12001 

If your charger was left on for 2-3 days like some folks have reported 
before the light when solid, and or the battery got very hot this could 
be the reason for the battery failure. Contact HH and they will be able 
to help you. In the mean time try a good 10X battery cartridge if you 
have one. If not let me know offline and I'll send you mine from my 10X 
to hold you over or at least get everything off the 12X you have. 

Troy Newman 
Team JR / Horizon Hobby 
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