[NSRCA-discussion] stirring the pot..;)

[Woodward, Jim (US SSA)]

Let's not forget that the reason FAI went to flying a semifinals round was to weed out the pilots that previously made the finals, only for everyone to see that they had never flown the Finals sequence before. FAI is not an equal game if you can skate to the finals without proving yourself in FM, Jim

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Sent: Mon May 18 19:07:07 2009
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] stirring the pot..;) 


Mark
 
They're are probably different views on this and no one is totally wrong. 
 
We originally began flying F on Sunday in D6 so that folks going to the Nats had an opportunity to get some F experience in competition. It's even more desirable with the current Nats format allowing for 20 to move from the prelims to the semi's. When we first did this, it was agreed that anyone who wished could fly P on Sunday with the P & F scores normalized / combined for round placing, treating the total as a conventional 5 or 6 round event. I think that this is still the best way to handle it - the folks flying F simply "handicap" themselves - but we're out for the experience anyway. It just hasn't been brought up recently, as everyone now seems to want to fly F.
 
Rather than dropping one of 4 P's and one F (it was done this way at Temple), it would be according the F3A rules to drop one of 4 P's, then normalize the remaining 3 P scores to 1000. The outcome is then determined by the best two of the (normalized) P score and the two F scores. (Either one F or the P score is dropped.) However, this doesn't work well when only three P's are flown, nor when 3 F's are flown as happens at some D6 meets. The FAI F3A rules are designed for large events and there is no particular rule for the typical local meet we hold in the US. 
 
As Dave mentions, some folks have no interest in learning both sequences and that's their choice. I do think it's also very good for the game to be able to fly both if you wish. Hopefully more events will choose to try the above format as it allows for both interests. Some of us have no interest in attending a meet if there isn't an opportunity to fly F so, as I said, different preferences are valid.
 
As an aside, for the last several rules cycles the D6 contests have switched to the new P schedule after the Nats for the remaining fall events. I hope that we continue that practice again this year.
 
Earl

	----- Original Message ----- 
	From: Mark Hunt <mailto:flyintexan at att.net>  
	To: pattern discussion <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  
	Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 4:57 PM
	Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] stirring the pot..;)

	I have taken note that since we started flying the F pattern regularly on Sunday at local contests (couple years now), we have been scoring it in such a way that it is simply treated as a 6 round contest in which any combination of the F and P sequences may be the drop rounds.  I think the concensus originaly being that not everyone is comfortable flying the F, allowing those that only practice the P to be able to drop both F rounds (usually 2 F rounds on Sunday).
	 
	Hypothetically, it could be run and tabulated in such a way that in a typical 6 round contest of 4 P's and 2 F's, you would drop one P and one F.  More of a Prelims and Finals style.
	 
	It's not any serious concern to me, but I am curious, what is the concensus among FAI pilots now?  Just keep it the same, or consider changing?
	 
	 
	-mark

	
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