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Let's not forget that the reason FAI went to flying a semifinals round was to weed out the pilots that previously made the finals, only for everyone to see that they had never flown the Finals sequence before. FAI is not an equal game if you can skate to the finals without proving yourself in FM, Jim</font></p>
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<br><b>To</b>: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>
<br><b>Sent</b>: Mon May 18 19:07:07 2009<br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] stirring the pot..;)
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Mark</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>They're are probably different views on this and no one is
totally wrong. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>We originally began flying F on Sunday in D6 so that folks
going to the Nats had an opportunity to get some F experience in competition.
It's even more desirable with the current Nats format allowing for 20 to move
from the prelims to the semi's. When we first did this, it was agreed that
anyone who wished could fly P on Sunday with the P & F scores normalized /
combined for round placing, treating the total as a conventional 5 or 6 round
event. I think that this is still the best way to handle it - the folks flying F
simply "handicap" themselves - but we're out for the experience anyway. It just
hasn't been brought up recently, as everyone now seems to want to fly
F.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Rather than dropping one of 4 P's and one F (it was done
this way at Temple), it would be according the F3A rules to drop one of 4
P's, then normalize the remaining 3 P scores to 1000. The outcome is then
determined by the best two of the (normalized) P score and the two F scores.
(Either one F or the P score is dropped.) However, this doesn't work well when
only three P's are flown, nor when 3 F's are flown as happens at some D6 meets.
</FONT><FONT face=Arial>The FAI F3A rules are designed for large events and
there is no particular rule for the typical local meet we hold in the US.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>As Dave mentions, some folks have no interest in learning
both sequences and that's their choice. I do think it's also very good for the
game to be able to fly both if you wish. Hopefully more events will choose to
try the above format as it allows for both interests. Some of us have no
interest in attending a meet if there isn't an opportunity to fly F so, as I
said, different preferences are valid.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>As an aside, for the last several rules cycles the D6
contests have switched to the new P schedule after the Nats for the remaining
fall events. I hope that we continue that practice again this year.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 18, 2009 4:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] stirring the
pot..;)</DIV>
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<DIV>I have taken note that since we started flying the F pattern regularly on
Sunday at local contests (couple years now), we have been scoring it in such a
way that it is simply treated as a 6 round contest in which any combination of
the F and P sequences may be the drop rounds. I think the concensus
originaly being that not everyone is comfortable flying the F, allowing those
that only practice the P to be able to drop both F rounds (usually 2 F rounds
on Sunday).</DIV>
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<DIV>Hypothetically, it could be run and tabulated in such a way that in a
typical 6 round contest of 4 P's and 2 F's, you would drop one P and one
F. More of a Prelims and Finals style.</DIV>
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<DIV>It's not any serious concern to me, but I am curious, what is the
concensus among FAI pilots now? Just keep it the same, or consider
changing?</DIV>
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<DIV>-mark</DIV></DIV>
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