[NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System

Fri May 8 18:03:38 AKDT 2009

I've been flying intermediate for about 3 years going on 4.  The two
rolls are still kicking my you know what.  I can do one slow roll and
one 4 pt roll but not two consecutive rolls.  I'm certain that the
average advance pilot would really have trouble with 3 rolls.  I see a
lot of intermediate, advanced and sometimes even masters pilots almost
loose airplanes on the horizontal rolling maneuvers.  They shouldn't be
underestimated.

I agree with Mark, lets make advancement at all levels a guideline.  I
had to move up from sportsman to intermediate after my first year in
sportsman because I beat 4 other pilots.  I was flying a Kaos and the
other pilots were all flying their 1st contests with trainers.  They had
no chance.  In the end I'm glade I moved up but at the time it made me
real nervous.  I was so determined to fly pattern that I decided to give
it the old college try in intermediate.

I think Advance could use a few more maneuvers that exit inverted.
Otherwise, I believe all the sequences are pretty good.

Ron 

-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Lewis
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:38 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System

There is a provision in the current rule set to accomodate these
situations, see 8.1.2 of the competition regulations....

Richard

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From: "jeffghughes at comcast.net" <jeffghughes at comcast.net>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 3:30:24 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System
Bob,
I understand completely, I moved up to advanced, then my daughter got
sick and I've been to one contest in 4 years. My flying has regressed,
and my confidence along with it. 
Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Atwood" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 2:52:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System
I know you're joking some Bob, but I think you're actually a great
example of someone that was able to fly a lot, and progressed nicely
through the system, but then when you got to Masters.a time when you
really need to practice even more to be competitive, your job suddenly
changed,  home life became more complex, and you're lucky to fly 10
practice flights a year outside of contests.   Your experience and skill
would allow you to be competitive in Advanced, without dominating and
likely have a lot more fun being a spoiler to that crowd, rather than
trying to fly masters without hardly even knowing the pattern.

You're the perfect candidate for someone that should be able to choose
where they fly (which pattern) and have the most enjoyment.  

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bob Kane
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:40 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System

Hey, I resemble that remark . . . . . . .

Bob Kane
getterflash at yahoo.com

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From: "jeffghughes at comcast.net" <jeffghughes at comcast.net>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Cc: Don Ramsey <don.ramsey at suddenlink.net>
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 12:17:58 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Advancement System
This is all pretty interesting. From my perspective, I didn't  really
care who beat me when I was in intermediate or advanced. I just knew
that I was seeing the skill level necessary to win. While it's nice to
win a trophy in the lower classes, I understood I wasn't competing
against the best pilots anyway.  From what I've seen there is a huge
variation of talent within a class anyway. I've seen Masters pilots fly
that wouldn't win in advanced if they bumped back down (maybe not even
in intermediate). People move up for all kinds of reasons unrelated to
skill level.  It's also interesting that we talk about using each class
to improve our flying until we get to Masters, then it appears nobody
wants to improve to FAI. 

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