[NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions

[Bob Kane]

<snip>  . . . . .And yup, I agree, It's got to be a physical
impossibility to enter and exit a Split Esse at the same altitude. I think that
needs correcting. 

I've come close by performing an ugly 1/2  barrel roll first . . . . . ;)

 Bob Kane
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From: George W.Kennie <geobet4 at verizon.net>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:15:23 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions

 
 
Bill,
 
This is probably inaccurate, but I notice that
noone else has responded to your inquiry so just to prove that I have not
learned my lesson, here goes. 
 
In the landing descriptor it states, " there is no
down grade if the model rolls to a stop within 15 meters".   I think
the crucial word is STOP !   What does this mean to proper
execution?   How many times have you seen a plane touch down perfectly
within one meter of the center line and then proceed to roll perfectly straight
down the center of the runway without a single bounce for a distance of 150
feet?  A little hot maybe, but to most observers, a beautiful landing. In
light of the "Stop within 15 meters" stipulation, it would appear that this
becomes a downgradeable offence. Sounds, to me, like maybe it's the pilot's
responsibility to also control the approach airspeed so that touchdown occurs
just above stall speed controlling the rollout distance, but maybe somebody will
correct me on this. I think this would also cover stuff like flipovers after the
15 meter rollout.
 
If the pilot performs a landing and meets all
the above requirements and then encounters an obstacle, whether that be a hole
or a hummock or whatever, I would deem the execution faultless and rule "beyond
the pilot's control" and score a 10.  Flipovers usually occur as a result
of either the plane being outside the landing zone or equipment malfunction (
stuck wheel e.t.c.) and would require discretionary judgement on the part of the
scorer.
 
And yup, I agree, It's got to be a physical
impossibility to enter and exit a Split Esse at the same altitude. I think that
needs correcting. 
 
Of course, all this is my opinionated
interpretation of matters and should be so received.
 
G.
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: billglaze 
To: nsrca- discussion 
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:30
PM
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Questions

At the risk of starting another downwind turn discussion:
 
I've been reading over the excellent PowerPoint presentation, and I'd like a question answered that I've had for a long time.
On landing, if the plane overturns AT ANY TIME is it an automatic zero?  I've felt for a long time that it should be, yet I've had people tell me "after 50 ft. landing roll, we've completely lost interest in the airplane."  It can roll anywhere, do anything, and it doesn't affect the score, is their idea.  
Also, if it TOUCHES DOWN in the landing zone, and then rolls immediately into what awaits, (in some cases, a small canyon) is the landing zeroed?  I've been called for doing so once.
Secondly, in reading the presentation for Intermediate, it states for the Split S:  A downgrade if the entry and exit are not at the same altitude.  Seems to me to be an error that slipped by, but I've been wrong before. (Honest; yes, it's happened!)<G>  I've been known to incorrectly read/interpret also.  Standing by for the more knowledgeable brains on the list!
thanks
Bill Glaze
NSRCA 2388
 
 
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