[NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?

Fri Jul 31 06:21:15 AKDT 2009

The nats fee could double IMO. It's the smallest part of cost for my nats trip. I hate to see the ama lose money on the deal.  Heck, I doubled mine this year anyway to help out, lol.. Yeah, that's why I did it. 

Chris          

--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com> wrote:

From: Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?
To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 6:44 AM

This just show me how much misinformation
is out there.  I am on the AMA Executive Council.  There has been a
concern about the NATS for a long time.  The AMA site is there for major
events, not local events.  The NATS, IRCHA, XFC and others are the type of
events that showcase modeling and are what we want to use the site for. 
Many members that attend the NATS have expressed a desire to move the NATS
around.  The council is considering this, and is looking into how it could
be done.  Many want to see the NATS as a group event like it was 20 years
ago.  That may not be possible as finding a site with everything you need
is very difficult in today’s world.   

If the NATS does not move and more major
events are added, some local events may not be held at the site any longer due
to time restraints.  If a weekend is open, anyone can schedule something
there.  A local club event or even something like the D4-D5 shootout is
welcome, as long as dates are available. 

AMA looses money on the NATS.  That
is not really a big issue, as competition is part of the mission of AMA. 
However, HQ does get a lot of flack from non-competitors about them subsidizing
competition with their dues.  Lower number recently in NATS total
attendance is another concern.  Pattern is one of the bright spots at the
NATS, but other events are not doing nearly as well as pattern.  Awarding
someone a National Champion label is hard to feel good about when there were
only 3 people competing….   

Tony Stillman, President 

Radio South, Inc. 

139 Altama Connector,
 Box 322 

Brunswick,
 GA   31525 

1-800-962-7802 

www.radiosouthrc.com 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Joe Lachowski

Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:36
AM

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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010? 

It really isn't just about cutting costs either. It is
also about other AMA membership complaining about the site not being available
for their use. You would not believe the number of complaints AMA has had about
the AMA site being tied up. That is why the overall Nats at the site has been
shortened in length. 

If you are on 72, better plan on moving over to SS in the future. I've heard
rumours that the AMA has been considering making the AMA site SS only in the
future.

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:57:16
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From: homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com

To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010? 

  This is really funny.
  They want to bring the nats to 2 weeks to cut costs. I am sure they make
  money the way it is. Take this for what it is, heresay, but  I heard
  that the members of the club were complaining that the nats takes too much of
  their time away from their field for them to fly. Wasn't the field built for
  a localized nats site? And I'm pretty sure we all paid for it. The ama will
  lose out if they go to a 2 weeks nats IMO. Wait till they see entry's
  decline.  

  Chris  

  --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
  wrote: 

  From: Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>

  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?

  To: "' General pattern discussion '"
  <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

  Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:55 PM 

  That is a possibility also.  AMA is
  thinking about returning the NATS to a 2 week all-events NATS like used to be
  done.  If all events are together, HQ can put all costs into one
  effort.  If they are all split up, Each group would have more costs to
  deal with due to the fact that HQ can’t send a group of people to every
  site. 

  Tony Stillman, President 
  Radio South, Inc. 
  139 Altama Connector,
 Box 322 
  Brunswick,
 GA   31525 
  1-800-962-7802 
  www.radiosouthrc.com 

  From:
  nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
  [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Tim Taylor

  Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009
  3:39 PM

  To: General
   pattern discussion

  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
  Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010? 

    It was done, It was called NPAC 

    Tim

    --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Bill's Email <wemodels at cox.net>
    wrote: 

    From: Bill's Email <wemodels at cox.net>

    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?

    To: " General pattern discussion 
    " <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

    Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 2:06 PM 

    Why not allow the SIGS to do their own thing? IMAC
    and NSRCA do not need to share a site. The LSF can find a site for the
    soaring NATS. Pylon knows what venues work for them and so on. FF can do
    their own thing as well. Why tie soaring and FF together and so on??

    Tony wrote:  

    Matt:

    Yes, it is just difficult to tell if it is actually feasible… 
    The problem is that it requires a large site for Pattern/Pylon/IMAC and
    will require another large site for Soaring/Outdoor FF.  It may be
    very difficult to actually find places that can handle this group. 

    Tony Stillman,
    President 

    Radio South, Inc. 

    139 Altama Connector,
    Box 322 
    Brunswick,
 GA   31525 
     1-800-962-7802  
    www.radiosouthrc.com 

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