[NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?
mike mueller
mups1953 at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 31 06:04:38 AKDT 2009
I think the reason the AMA losses money on the Nats is because it runs too many events that have very poor participation. I suggest that everyone look at the number of participants in a lot of obscure and obsoltete events These numbers can usually be found in the Nats news reports.
AMA losses money on the Nats? Then consider a number of participants that must be met in each event for it to remain an event in the next years Nats.
I view the AMA headquarters as the Mecca of Model Airplane flying. It's a really great place that is being used for a lot of important events. I don't see a lot broken with the way things are being done there. You can not please all of the people all of the time.
I think competition is vitally important to the RC community as a whole and it deserves a lot of attention. AMA is doing a very good job and I'd hate to see it tore apart. My opinion, thanks for letting me express it. Mike Mueller
--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com> wrote:
> From: Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?
> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:44 AM
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> This just
> show me how much misinformation
> is out there. I am on the AMA Executive
> Council. There has been a
> concern about the NATS for a long time. The AMA site
> is there for major
> events, not local events. The NATS, IRCHA, XFC and
> others are the type of
> events that showcase modeling and are what we want to use
> the site for.
> Many members that attend the NATS have expressed a desire
> to move the NATS
> around. The council is considering this, and is
> looking into how it could
> be done. Many want to see the NATS as a group event
> like it was 20 years
> ago. That may not be possible as finding a site with
> everything you need
> is very difficult in today’s world.
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> If the NATS
> does not move and more major
> events are added, some local events may not be held at the
> site any longer due
> to time restraints. If a weekend is open, anyone can
> schedule something
> there. A local club event or even something like the
> D4-D5 shootout is
> welcome, as long as dates are available.
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> AMA looses
> money on the NATS. That
> is not really a big issue, as competition is part of the
> mission of AMA.
> However, HQ does get a lot of flack from non-competitors
> about them subsidizing
> competition with their dues. Lower number recently in
> NATS total
> attendance is another concern. Pattern is one of the
> bright spots at the
> NATS, but other events are not doing nearly as well as
> pattern. Awarding
> someone a National Champion label is hard to feel good
> about when there were
> only 3 people competing….
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> Tony
> Stillman, President
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> Radio
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> From:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Joe Lachowski
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> Sent: Friday,
> July 31, 2009 8:36
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> To: NSRCA
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> Subject: Re:
> [NSRCA-discussion]
> Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?
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> It really
> isn't just about cutting costs either. It is
> also about other AMA membership complaining about the site
> not being available
> for their use. You would not believe the number of
> complaints AMA has had about
> the AMA site being tied up. That is why the overall Nats at
> the site has been
> shortened in length.
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> If you are on 72, better plan on moving over to SS in the
> future. I've heard
> rumours that the AMA has been considering making the AMA
> site SS only in the
> future.
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> Date: Thu,
> 30 Jul 2009 20:57:16
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> From: homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com
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> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the
> Nats in 2010?
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> This is really funny.
> They want to bring the nats to 2 weeks to cut costs. I am
> sure they make
> money the way it is. Take this for what it is, heresay,
> but I heard
> that the members of the club were complaining that the
> nats takes too much of
> their time away from their field for them to fly.
> Wasn't the field built for
> a localized nats site? And I'm pretty sure we all
> paid for it. The ama will
> lose out if they go to a 2 weeks nats IMO. Wait till they
> see entry's
> decline.
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> Chris
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> --- On Thu, 7/30/09,
> Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
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> From: Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the
> Nats in 2010?
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> To: "' General pattern discussion '"
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
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> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:55 PM
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> That is a
> possibility also. AMA is
> thinking about returning the NATS to a 2 week all-events
> NATS like used to be
> done. If all events are together, HQ can put all
> costs into one
> effort. If they are all split up, Each group would
> have more costs to
> deal with due to the fact that HQ can’t send a
> group of people to every
> site.
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>
> Tony
> Stillman, President
> Radio
> South, Inc.
> 139 Altama
> Connector,
> Box 322
> Brunswick,
> GA 31525
> 1-800-962-7802
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> www.radiosouthrc.com
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> From:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of Tim Taylor
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> Sent:
> Thursday, July 30, 2009
> 3:39 PM
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> To: General
> pattern discussion
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> Subject:
> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
> Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?
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> It was done, It was called
> NPAC
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> Tim
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> --- On Thu, 7/30/09,
> Bill's Email <wemodels at cox.net>
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> From: Bill's Email <wemodels at cox.net>
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate
> the Nats in 2010?
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> To: " General pattern discussion
> " <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
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> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 2:06
> PM
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> Why not allow the SIGS to do
> their own thing? IMAC
> and NSRCA do not need to share a site. The LSF can find
> a site for the
> soaring NATS. Pylon knows what venues work for them and
> so on. FF can do
> their own thing as well. Why tie soaring and FF
> together and so on??
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> Tony wrote:
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> Matt:
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> Yes, it is just difficult to tell if it is actually
> feasible…
> The problem is that it requires a large site for
> Pattern/Pylon/IMAC and
> will require another large site for Soaring/Outdoor
> FF. It may be
> very difficult to actually find places that can handle
> this group.
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> Tony
> Stillman,
> President
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> Radio
> South, Inc.
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> 139
> Altama Connector,
> Box 322
> Brunswick,
> GA 31525
> 1-800-962-7802
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> www.radiosouthrc.com
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