[NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?

mike mueller mups1953 at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 31 06:04:38 AKDT 2009


 I think the reason the AMA losses money on the Nats is because it runs too many events that have very poor participation. I suggest that everyone look at the number of participants in a lot of obscure and obsoltete events These numbers can usually be found in the Nats news reports.
 AMA losses money on the Nats? Then consider a number of participants that must be met in each event for it to remain an event in the next years Nats.
 I view the AMA headquarters as the Mecca of Model Airplane flying. It's a really great place that is being used for a lot of important events. I don't see a lot broken with the way things are being done there. You can not please all of the people all of the time. 
 I think competition is vitally important to the RC community as a whole and it deserves a lot of attention. AMA is doing a very good job and I'd hate to see it tore apart. My opinion, thanks for letting me express it. Mike Mueller

--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com> wrote:

> From: Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?
> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:44 AM
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> This just
> show me how much misinformation
> is out there.  I am on the AMA Executive
> Council.  There has been a
> concern about the NATS for a long time.  The AMA site
> is there for major
> events, not local events.  The NATS, IRCHA, XFC and
> others are the type of
> events that showcase modeling and are what we want to use
> the site for. 
> Many members that attend the NATS have expressed a desire
> to move the NATS
> around.  The council is considering this, and is
> looking into how it could
> be done.  Many want to see the NATS as a group event
> like it was 20 years
> ago.  That may not be possible as finding a site with
> everything you need
> is very difficult in today’s world. 
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> If the NATS
> does not move and more major
> events are added, some local events may not be held at the
> site any longer due
> to time restraints.  If a weekend is open, anyone can
> schedule something
> there.  A local club event or even something like the
> D4-D5 shootout is
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> AMA looses
> money on the NATS.  That
> is not really a big issue, as competition is part of the
> mission of AMA. 
> However, HQ does get a lot of flack from non-competitors
> about them subsidizing
> competition with their dues.  Lower number recently in
> NATS total
> attendance is another concern.  Pattern is one of the
> bright spots at the
> NATS, but other events are not doing nearly as well as
> pattern.  Awarding
> someone a National Champion label is hard to feel good
> about when there were
> only 3 people competing….   
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> Tony
> Stillman, President 
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> From:
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Joe Lachowski
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> Sent: Friday,
> July 31, 2009 8:36
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> To: NSRCA
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> Subject: Re:
> [NSRCA-discussion]
> Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010? 
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> It really
> isn't just about cutting costs either. It is
> also about other AMA membership complaining about the site
> not being available
> for their use. You would not believe the number of
> complaints AMA has had about
> the AMA site being tied up. That is why the overall Nats at
> the site has been
> shortened in length. 
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> If you are on 72, better plan on moving over to SS in the
> future. I've heard
> rumours that the AMA has been considering making the AMA
> site SS only in the
> future.
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> Date: Thu,
> 30 Jul 2009 20:57:16
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> From: homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com
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> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the
> Nats in 2010? 
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>   This is really funny.
>   They want to bring the nats to 2 weeks to cut costs. I am
> sure they make
>   money the way it is. Take this for what it is, heresay,
> but  I heard
>   that the members of the club were complaining that the
> nats takes too much of
>   their time away from their field for them to fly.
> Wasn't the field built for
>   a localized nats site? And I'm pretty sure we all
> paid for it. The ama will
>   lose out if they go to a 2 weeks nats IMO. Wait till they
> see entry's
>   decline.  
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> Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
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>   From: Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
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>   Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the
> Nats in 2010?
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>   To: "' General pattern discussion '"
>   <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
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>   Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:55 PM
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>   That is a
> possibility also.  AMA is
>   thinking about returning the NATS to a 2 week all-events
> NATS like used to be
>   done.  If all events are together, HQ can put all
> costs into one
>   effort.  If they are all split up, Each group would
> have more costs to
>   deal with due to the fact that HQ can’t send a
> group of people to every
>   site. 
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>   Tony
> Stillman, President 
>   Radio
> South, Inc. 
>   139 Altama
> Connector,
>  Box 322 
>   Brunswick,
>  GA   31525 
>   1-800-962-7802
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>   www.radiosouthrc.com
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>   From:
>   nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>   [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of Tim Taylor
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>   Sent:
> Thursday, July 30, 2009
>   3:39 PM
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>   To: General
>    pattern discussion
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>   Subject:
> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
>   Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?
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>     It was done, It was called
> NPAC 
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>     Tim
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>     --- On Thu, 7/30/09,
> Bill's Email <wemodels at cox.net>
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>     From: Bill's Email <wemodels at cox.net>
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>     Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate
> the Nats in 2010?
> 
>     To: " General pattern discussion 
>     " <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
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>     Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 2:06
> PM 
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>     Why not allow the SIGS to do
> their own thing? IMAC
>     and NSRCA do not need to share a site. The LSF can find
> a site for the
>     soaring NATS. Pylon knows what venues work for them and
> so on. FF can do
>     their own thing as well. Why tie soaring and FF
> together and so on??
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>     Tony wrote:  
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>     Matt:
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>     Yes, it is just difficult to tell if it is actually
> feasible… 
>     The problem is that it requires a large site for
> Pattern/Pylon/IMAC and
>     will require another large site for Soaring/Outdoor
> FF.  It may be
>     very difficult to actually find places that can handle
> this group. 
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>     Tony
> Stillman,
>     President 
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>     Radio
> South, Inc. 
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>     139
> Altama Connector,
>     Box 322 
>     Brunswick,
>  GA   31525 
>      1-800-962-7802 
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