[NSRCA-discussion] Nats

krishlan fitzsimmons homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 7 18:05:59 AKDT 2009


Nah Ron. You get to fly on the other flight line in front of different judges. 

Chris          

--- On Tue, 7/7/09, Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:

From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Nats
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 6:27 PM

No!  Me!

Ron VP

On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Chris Fitzsimmons wrote:

> 
> Please put me on the list to fly after Bob! LOL
> 
> Chris
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm going to attend anyway.  My performance will likely give a tremendous advantage to whoever flies after me.
> 
> Bob Kane
> getterflash at yahoo.com
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> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 7:57:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Nats
> 
> John and I had a discussion about this after he had a discussion about it with Mike Harrison.
> 
> We can get equal exposure in one session IF the two sets of judges observe the flights of all 38 Master class pilots.  Let's see now 38 pilots times 10 minutes average per flight equals 380 minutes.  That's six hours and 20 minutes.  Hmmm.  Kinda hard to cram that into a four-hour afternoon session and the pilots will each only have two flights.
> 
> Well, let's only fly four four hours one day and finish the rounds the next day.  Then we can start on rounds three and four and finish them the next day.  OK, we have equal exposure for all pilots and we've flown for three days.  Wait a minute - pilots will have only flown four rounds over three days!
> 
> Now the reason for the matrix method becomes apparent.  With it, the pilots get equal exposure to judges each day, BUT not all pilots are scored by all judges every day.  Compromise  is involved to obtain six flights for all pilots.
> 
> Ron Van Putte
> 
> 
> On Jul 7, 2009, at 6:27 PM, John Fuqua wrote:
> 
> The list has been lacking in a good discussion (argument?) or a while so I thought I would toss something out now that many of us are getting ready go to the Nats.   We were discussing scoring at the Nats and I wonder how many of those going realize that we do not have equal judge exposure when selecting the finalists for Masters and semi finalists for FAI.   We used to have that when we had to take one flight from each day but when that changed to any 4 of 6 we lost equal exposure.   Just wondering if folks realized this.
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> John
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