[NSRCA-discussion] K-Factor morphed into Grow Pattern

[davidmichael1 at comcast.net]

Perhaps, Joe, you have hit upon the crux of the discussion here in your first sentence.   It makes me ask- what is NSRCA's charter?  Is the singular goal to develop flyers skills so that they can progress through the classes or is it a more diverse set of goals that includes developing skill along with giving equal weight to things like driving membership and contest participation even if it comes at some cost to the first goal?  As a relative newcomer here I will say that my impression is that is the former and not so much the latter.  My opinion only. 







  



  
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From: "Joe Lachowski" <jlachow at hotmail.com> 
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Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 2:46:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] K-Factor morphed into Grow Pattern 

Changing schedules yearly does not systematically help in developing(perfecting) skill sets at each level. Changing schedules every 2 ,3 or 4 yrs is more doable.  I think Sportsman should be changed maybe every 6 years if deemed necessary. Intermediate and Advanced could be changed every 3 or 4 yrs with Masters changed every 2 years. Also, schedule changes for the various classes needs to be staggered. Wholesale changes is a major task. In order to make more frequent schedule changes, permanent guidelines need to be used to ensure unintended difficulty creep. Derek has the guidelines in his hands that myself and few others put together. If these guidelines are adhered to, there is no reason why we can't change schedules more frequently provided they are not under AMA control as they are now.  Believe me putting together new sequences that make sense and adresses the needs at each level is not as easy as it looks. 
  
PS - As far as outright adopting FAI sequences for Masters goes, I am totally against it. I could maybe accept using an FAI sequence and then tweaking it to fit the criteria that was developed in the guidelines that were put together. 







Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:43:02 -0700 
From: rob at koolsoft.com 
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] K-Factor morphed into Grow Pattern 





The idea around changing the routines each year is intended to provide a little change for someone that fly's the same level for more than one year.  Since Sportsman and Intermediate are definitely not end levels like Master where the same competitors fly them year after year after year, the routines can be from a pool of pre approved routines.  



Three Sportsman routines can be developed and then rotated on a 3 year basis.  Same for intermediate.  For that matter, you could use the past 3 different sportsman routines and just rotate them on a yearly basis. This is nice because it doesn't requires a committee to come up with a routine every year for those levels.  Advanced might also fall into this category as well, but definitely not Masters.  They need a routine committee because pilots can be in that class for years and years and change to keep things interesting would definitely be needed. 




- Robert Beaubien 

- NSRCA, District 7 Webmaster 

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of J N Hiller 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:30 AM 
To: General pattern discussion 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] K-Factor morphed into Grow Pattern 



OK guys if you are going to change the schedules every year you need to change the current mandatory advancement system as well so competitors aren’t advanced prematurely. But we kind of have that problem now. 

Jim Hiller 





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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:14 AM 
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The AMA has indicated to us that this will be considered - it will definitely be a rules proposal if everyone agrees. 






From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Budd Engineering 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:51 AM 
To: General pattern discussion 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] K-Factor morphed into Grow Pattern 

Now that Dave Brown is gone we should try again. 





Budd Engineering 

jerry at buddengineering.com 

http://www.buddengineering.com 



On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Gene Maurice wrote: 






A BIG difference is that the IMAC schedules are an addendum to the rulebook and DON’T have to go thru a rules cycle to change. We’ve tried this and failed to get it past the AMA. 



Gene Maurice 

Plano, TX 

AMA 3408 NSRCA 877 

PACSS.sgmservice.com 



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