[NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll

Tue Jan 27 08:31:36 AKST 2009

I did not want to post this here initially because it is not germane to the
poll.  It was raised by Troy's post however as a legitimate issue that we
face.

These are not exact #'s and vary from month to month but are generally
pretty close.

Costs are broken down as follows:

Per copy price of 500 or more copies is $1.95 (we generally print 700)
Composition is $275
Color is $250
Layup is $250
Mailing to US only is $0.46 per copy
Sales tax is about $140 per month (this will go away when we change our IRS
tax status)

This gives us a total of around $2602 on average.  Our absolute highest
advertising income that we've had was $2100 in November so you can see that
we subsidize the K-Factor quite a bit each month.  If we drop the number of
copies that we print to less than 500 then the price per copy goes up to
$2.25 and the layup costs increase to $300.

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Woodward, Jim
(US SSA)
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:19 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll

Hi Guys,

Can someone please repost the K-Factor cost break out?  Here are some
questions I have about the publication:

1.       Is there a contract in place for printing the K-Factor (if so, who
is the contract with)?

2.       Are the postage and printing paid for separately, or lumped
together?

10,000 words were sent to the list regarding whether to go digital or keep
the hard copy, but I didn't see the information discussing the current cost
structure.

Thanks,

Jim

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Woodward, Jim
(US SSA)
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:10 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll

It costs $2100/month to print and mail out the K-Factor the way we do it
now?   What is the primary cost driver, format or postage?

Thanks,

Jim

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Bodary
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:41 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll

The poll did not include a 50/50 mix. I would'nt mind a bimonthly K-Factor
and could live with an electronic version every other month.

Makes me wonder how much advertising might be lost on a all electronic
version. 

--- On Sat, 1/24/09, Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll
To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 12:19 PM

It's a lot easier to allow for a "pull" of the K-Factor versus a
"push" of
it... Pushing it means that we'd clock up the internet traffic lanes.  You
will receive a reminder email that it is available. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hatton
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:01 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll

The electronic copy to download is good, but I would prefer at least a
reminder Email when a new one becomes available,  and the option to have it
attached to the email would be even better.

Jay Marshall wrote:
> You might want to upgrade your printer Ron. I have a 8 year old HP 970 
> that prints both sides automatically. The real issue might be cost. 
> What would it cost in ink to print a complete K-Factor in color on my 
> printer vs the cost to have NSRCA print it? I can't carry my desktop
to
the throne room.
> 
> Jay Marshall
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van 
> Putte
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:42 AM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll
> 
> I like a paper copy, so I'd print it out to take it out to my hobby 
> shop or the "throne room".  It is against my Scottish background
to 
> just print out a file one side only.  I'd like to print both sides of 
> the paper.  If we decide to go with an electronic K-Factor only, it 
> would be nice to have the PDF files arranged so, if we had a 6-page K- 
> Factor, we could print out pages 1, 3, and 5, remove the sheets from 
> the printer, flip over the sheets, reinsert the pages in the printer
> and print out pages 2, 4 and 6 on the back of the respective pages.   
> I know I could do it one page at a time with what we have now, but, 
> with a 32-page K-Factor, that's a lot of shuffling around.
> 
> Ron Van Putte
> 
> On Jan 24, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:
> 
>   
>> Optional when one renews - if we can work out the pricing details on 
>> the paper only version.
>> 
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
>> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Joe Lachowski
>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:11 AM
>> To: NSRCA Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll
>> 
>> I guess having the option to choose which way you want it when you 
>> renew is out?
>> 
>> I read it as an all or nothing kind of thing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: derekkoopowitz at gmail.com
>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:41:30 -0800
>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll
>> 
>> 
>> On the NSRCA website - http://www.nsrca.us - there is a poll that 
>> we'd like everyone to participate in.
>> There are two options on the poll:
>> 1.  NSRCA Membership with electronic K-Factor only 2.  NSRCA 
>> Membership with paper K-Factor The board would like to find out the 
>> level of interest of everyone (NSRCA members and others) as to 
>> whether they would prefer to receive their K-Factor electronically or 
>> whether they'd like to receive it as a paper copy (as it is done 
>> currently).  Pricing on each type of membership is unknown at this 
>> time, however, we believe that the electronic only membership would 
>> probably result in dues that are less than the paper K-Factor 
>> membership.
>> Please pass this email on to others that may not be connected to this 
>> list - you do not have to be an NSRCA member to participate in this 
>> poll.
>> 
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>> how.
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