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size=2 face=Arial>I did not want to post this here initially because it is not
germane to the poll. It was raised by Troy's post however as a legitimate
issue that we face.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796451417-27012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>These are not exact #'s and vary from month to month but are
generally pretty close.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796451417-27012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Costs are broken down as follows:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796451417-27012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Per copy price of 500 or more copies is $1.95 (we generally
print 700)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796451417-27012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Composition is $275</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796451417-27012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Color is $250</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796451417-27012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Layup is $250</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796451417-27012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Mailing to US only is $0.46 per copy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796451417-27012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Sales tax is about $140 per month (this will go away when we
change our IRS tax status)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=796451417-27012009><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>This gives us a total of around $2602 on average. Our
absolute highest advertising income that we've had was $2100 in November so you
can see that we subsidize the K-Factor quite a bit each month. If we drop
the number of copies that we print to less than 500 then the price per copy goes
up to $2.25 and the layup costs increase to $300.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Woodward,
Jim (US SSA)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:19 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic
versus Paper K-Factor Poll<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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Guys,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Can
someone please repost the K-Factor cost break out? Here are some questions
I have about the publication:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Is
there a contract in place for printing the K-Factor (if so, who is the contract
with)?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Are
the postage and printing paid for separately, or lumped
together?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">10,000
words were sent to the list regarding whether to go digital or keep the hard
copy, but I didn’t see the information discussing the current cost
structure.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim</SPAN><SPAN
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Woodward,
Jim (US SSA)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 26, 2009 8:10 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic
versus Paper K-Factor Poll<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It
costs $2100/month to print and mail out the K-Factor the way we do it now?
What is the primary cost driver, format or postage?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks,</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dennis
Bodary<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B> General
pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus
Paper K-Factor Poll<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>The poll did not include a 50/50 mix. I would'nt mind a
bimonthly K-Factor and could live with an electronic version every other
month.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Makes me wonder how much advertising might be lost on a
all electronic version. <BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 1/24/09, Derek Koopowitz
<I><derekkoopowitz@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>From: Derek Koopowitz
<derekkoopowitz@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<BR>To: "'General pattern
discussion'" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date: Saturday,
January 24, 2009, 12:19 PM<o:p></o:p></P><PRE>It's a lot easier to allow for a "pull" of the K-Factor versus a<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>"push" of<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>it... Pushing it means that we'd clock up the internet traffic lanes. You<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>will receive a reminder email that it is available. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hatton<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:01 AM<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>To: General pattern discussion<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>The electronic copy to download is good, but I would prefer at least a<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>reminder Email when a new one becomes available, and the option to have it<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>attached to the email would be even better.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>Jay Marshall wrote:<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> You might want to upgrade your printer Ron. I have a 8 year old HP 970 <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> that prints both sides automatically. The real issue might be cost. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> What would it cost in ink to print a complete K-Factor in color on my <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> printer vs the cost to have NSRCA print it? I can't carry my desktop<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>to<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>the throne room.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>> Jay Marshall<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>> -----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> Putte<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:42 AM<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> To: General pattern discussion<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>> I like a paper copy, so I'd print it out to take it out to my hobby <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> shop or the "throne room". It is against my Scottish background<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>to <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> just print out a file one side only. I'd like to print both sides of <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> the paper. If we decide to go with an electronic K-Factor only, it <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> would be nice to have the PDF files arranged so, if we had a 6-page K- <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> Factor, we could print out pages 1, 3, and 5, remove the sheets from <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> the printer, flip over the sheets, reinsert the pages in the printer<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> and print out pages 2, 4 and 6 on the back of the respective pages. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> I know I could do it one page at a time with what we have now, but, <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> with a 32-page K-Factor, that's a lot of shuffling around.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>> Ron Van Putte<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>> On Jan 24, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Optional when one renews - if we can work out the pricing details on <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> the paper only version.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Joe Lachowski<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:11 AM<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> To: NSRCA Discussion List<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>>> I guess having the option to choose which way you want it when you <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> renew is out?<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>>> I read it as an all or nothing kind of thing.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>>> From: derekkoopowitz@gmail.com<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:41:30 -0800<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>>> On the NSRCA website - http://www.nsrca.us - there is a poll that <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> we'd like everyone to participate in.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> There are two options on the poll:<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> 1. NSRCA Membership with electronic K-Factor only 2. NSRCA <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Membership with paper K-Factor The board would like to find out the <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> level of interest of everyone (NSRCA members and others) as to <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> whether they would prefer to receive their K-Factor electronically or <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> whether they'd like to receive it as a paper copy (as it is done <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> currently). Pricing on each type of membership is unknown at this <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> time, however, we believe that the electronic only membership would <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> probably result in dues that are less than the paper K-Factor <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> membership.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> Please pass this email on to others that may not be connected to this <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> list - you do not have to be an NSRCA member to participate in this <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> poll.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>>> HotmailR goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. See <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> how.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<o:p></o:p></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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