[NSRCA-discussion] Happy New Year

[billglaze]

Ron:
Remember the bulls painted on the runway as a landing multiplier?  There 
were a lot of gymnastics performed to try and hit the center.  And, some of 
them were even done with an airplane!!<G> Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Happy New Year


> Yeah, and the landing and taxi back to the box were scored too.  That  was 
> right after dirt was invented, but before the round wheel was  invented.
>
> Ron VP
>
> On Jan 7, 2009, at 5:59 PM, billglaze wrote:
>
>> And when we did those 3 "maneuvers" in the 50's, they were followed  by a 
>> figure 8, the crossover point of which was directly over the  heads of 
>> the pilot and judges.(!)  That completed the "compulsory"  portion of the 
>> pattern.  Other than, of course, the taxi out,  (scored) and takeoff 
>> (scored.)
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Burton" <burtona at atmc.net>
>> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Happy New Year
>>
>>
>>> SFO, Procedure turn, SFB were never one maneuver as I remember  back in 
>>> the
>>> early 70's when I was flying them. They were always 3 maneuvers  judged 
>>> and
>>> scored separately.
>>> BTW, I hope they never put those 3 in the FAI schedules. They are  by 
>>> far the
>>> most difficult sequence to do correctly of any I've ever flown.  It's 
>>> been a
>>> long time, if ever, since I've given a 10 on a procedure turn.  It's 
>>> still in
>>> the SPA schedule and it's still rare to see a good one.
>>> Dave Burton
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Doug
>>> Cronkhite
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:26 PM
>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Happy New Year
>>>
>>> Great.. so the judging guide conflicts with itself even.
>>>
>>> Maneuver 3 states that since the stall turn (a turnaround  maneuver) is
>>> between straight flight out and straight flight back, it's entry and
>>> exit altitude should be the same.
>>>
>>> Then in maneuver 5, there is a specific note that since the 1/2  reverse
>>> cuban 8 is a turnaround maneuver, its entry and exit altitude may 
>>> differ.
>>>
>>> IF the straight flight out, turnaround, and straight flight back  were 1
>>> maneuver as they used to be (SFO, procedure turn, SFB) the the  relative
>>> altitude would be a judging criteria. However, since these are 3
>>> separate maneuvers, the performance of one maneuver MAY NOT be  used as 
>>> a
>>> judging criteria for another. To quote another part of the judging 
>>> handbook:
>>>
>>> "*Be independent*. Ignore the scores of other judges. Do not converse
>>> about scores. Score each maneuver on its individual value. Dismiss
>>> consideration of each maneuver as soon as you record its score."
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> J N Hiller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I said I was finished once but you guys are having way too much
>>>> trouble with this turnaround altitude issue.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the link to the NSRCA Judging Section. Just click on 
>>>> Sportsman.
>>>>
>>>> http://nsrca.us/judginghome.html
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
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