[NSRCA-discussion] Electric/IC ...was Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem

[krishlan fitzsimmons]

I don't think the motors are the expensive part anymore. $3000 plus for an airframe is where the $$$ are spent. Not sure where money came into this. Heck, I'll spend the $700 on a motor easy.. It's the airframe where the money lies. 

I do agree though, if we do away with the weight limit, planes may increase in size (within the 2m box).. But I have seen them get too big and wide, and resize somewhat back down to a decent size. But what if we were even taking off? Or even even half way through a tank of fuel? That makes us equal. Do we need to be? Not in my opinion!!! If I'm at a disadvantage, c'mon and fly against me.. I'll show you how the underdog can fly.. lol.. 

Good points Mark!!! Well, till the analog servo's part.. haha 
But remember, with changing technology, always comes other changes. Always.. E might not be best for all, but some like it. Some don't. 

Heck, with new technology, most people wouldn't want the E version of the Kfactor. But they do!!!!!! Should we limit this technology? Or adapt to change? 

Chris          

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> wrote:
From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/IC ...was Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem
To: "'homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com'" <homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com>, "'nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 7:31 PM

I disagree with the last statement. New technology does not have to bring new
rules. Just new approaches to meeting the rules.  

The weight rule is merely the current limiting factor. It used to be
displacement was the primary limiter.  People said remove the displacement limit
and we'll be able to use cheaper larger motors rather than spending $$$ on
high performance .61 engines.  Yeah ... That worked. Weight just became the new
limiter and we have bigger planes, more expensive bigger high performance
motors. 

Remove weight, and size will be the only limiter. And yes, we'll have
bigger (think larger bipes) planes and bigger engines etc. 

How long before the call goes out to eliminate the size restriction?   

Set the rules. Follow the rules. Compete within the rules.  The rules are
irrelevent for the most part. Its equal for all.  If someones at a disadvantage
flying E, then don't fly E. That's simple. 

Fly what you think works best. Plane/power/radio. 

Ooooh ... There we go. Let's put in a rule that you can only fly analog 3
pole motor servos!!!  That will save us all some money! :)

-M
------Original Message------

From: krishlan fitzsimmons
To: General pattern discussion
ReplyTo: homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com
ReplyTo: General pattern discussion
Sent: Feb 9, 2009 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/IC ...was Arming
Plug/Receptacle	Problem

Mark, 

lol. I agree. I used to think different, but now I see that on windy days, the
weight rules favor glow, but on calm days, they favor E.. 
The weight rule is silly in the first place. No one will want to be too heavy
regardless of what the rules are. It should just go away, or go up to whatever
glow can take off at. 

New technology brings new rules. Just the way life is. 


Chris 
 
 
 


--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> wrote:


	From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
	Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric/IC ...was Arming Plug/Receptacle
Problem
	To: "nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org"
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
	Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 7:10 PM
	
	
	Can someone explain to me why we care if the rules favor something? 
	They're the rules.  If I wanted to fly Turbine because I think it's
the
	best option, should they change the rules to accommodate my choice??  I
thought
	we MAKE our choice based on how it fits the rules...not the other way around. 

	We have always designed our planes to fit the rules, not altered the rules to
	fit our planes.  Why does this change suddenly because a new power plant is
	getting close to being viable (it's already there)??   Makes no sense.
	
	If new batteries came out that weighed 1/3 as much with twice the capacity,
	suddenly the rules would grossly "favor" electric...and you know
what?
	 We would all change, because we pick our equipment to be competitive.

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