[NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem

Mon Feb 9 15:49:08 AKST 2009

...and some of us don't like the weight of the plane changing during the
flight...   <G>

Dave

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Beaubien
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 6:59 PM
To: jpavlick at idseng.com; General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem

... and don't like a fading power curve over the duration of the flight...
Some of us also like to fly longer than 8 minutes.  :-)  (I love these
religious wars)

- Robert Beaubien

- NSRCA, District 7 Webmaster

-

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Pavlick
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:41 PM
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem

Some of us like to fly more than 1 flight. :)

John Pavlick

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Tommy Scarmardo <tretas513 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Tommy Scarmardo <tretas513 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 8:57 PM

Actually I just take my airplane out of my truck (all assembled), charge the
flight

batteries (approx 30 minutes), and fly. When finished put it back in my
truck(assembled),

and drive home !!

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Jerry Voth <jjvoth at mtelco.net> wrote:

From: Jerry Voth <jjvoth at mtelco.net>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 2:39 PM

I've been lurking for a long time and after reading all the things that one 
needs to do to successfully fly electric, it makes one wonder how things 
would be if electrics were the norm from the beginning of powered R/C 
models. It might go like this;

Hey guys, I just bought this little IC engine and I tried it on one of my 
Pattern models and it works really well. "Look what it will do;
1. It has just as much power as our electric motors.
2. The only batteries you need are for the flight pack, glow igniter and the

electric starter if you don't like to flip by hand.
3. All you have to do is pump fuel into the tank, spin the engine with the 
starter and fly.The tail gets a little oily, but what the heck, it's fairly

easy to clean up.(Switching the radio on first is a given.)
4. You don't have to haul a generator or an extra car battery around to 
charge motor batteries."

Please don't take this the wrong way. It is tongue in cheek and just an 
observation. I also have too much time on my hands these days.

JJV
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot at sc.rr.com>
To: "'General pattern discussion'"
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem

>A 100 ohm resistor may be enough to charge the caps and make the ESC
> "active". Bad idea...
> 
> Jay Marshall
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van 
> Putte
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:14 PM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem
> 
> Good.  I will try it.  What wattage 100 ohm resistor?  Let's see,
> doesn't sustained power equal voltage squared, divided by the
> resistance?  If so, 42 squared, divided by 100 is 17.64 watts.
> That's probably overkill, since the current surge is transitory.  How
> about a 100 ohm, 10 watt resistor?
> 
> Just thought of something:  With the 100 ohm resistor across the
> arming plug receptacle, won't the ESC be on whenever the batteries
> are plugged into the circuit?
> 
> BTW, what about Castle Creation's statement that the "spark is
your
> friend'?
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Feb 9, 2009, at 11:55 AM, James Oddino wrote:
> 
>> Put a 100 ohm resistor across the arming plug receptacle.  Then the
>> capacitors in the ESC will charge without a spark as you connect
>> the batteries.  When you connect the arming plug, no spark.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Ron Van Putte wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a problem which I am sure many other E-powered airplane
>>> owners have that I'd like to solve.  I use an arming plug to
>>> connect the two 5S Lipo packs to the ESC.  On initial contact of
>>> the arming plug with the receptacle, there's a big spark
thrown.
>>> Eventually the contacts on the arming plug and receptacle get
>>> burned to the point where the electrical contact is very bad.
>>> Yesterday I had to land my airplane deadstick because (I think)
>>> the ESC saw what it thought was low voltage out of the battery
>>> that was actually due to the burned arming plug/receptacle
>>> contacts.  BTW, I am using high-amp Anderson Power Pole
>>> connectors, which are probably more susceptible to having the
>>> contacts burned than would Deans Ultra connectors.
>>> 
>>> I have thought about putting a BIG capacitor in parallel with the
>>> arming plug, that would damp the initial current surge which
>>> causes the spark.  The capacitor could be removed before flight.
>>> However, I'm wondering if there's a more elegant solution.
>>> 
>>> Ron Van Putte
>>> 
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