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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>…..and some of us don’t like
the weight of the plane changing during the flight……. <G><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert L. Beaubien<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 09, 2009
6:59 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> jpavlick@idseng.com; General
pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>... and don't like a
fading power curve over the duration of the flight... Some of us also
like to fly longer than 8 minutes. :-) (I love these religious
wars)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>- Robert Beaubien<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Pavlick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 09, 2009
4:41 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Some of us like to fly more than 1 flight. :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>John Pavlick<br>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Mon, 2/9/09, Tommy Scarmardo <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><tretas513@yahoo.com></span></i></span></b>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: Tommy Scarmardo
<tretas513@yahoo.com><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem<br>
To: "General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 8:57 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Actually I just take my airplane out of my truck
(all assembled), charge the flight<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>batteries (approx 30 minutes), and fly. When
finished put it back in my truck(assembled),<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>and drive home !!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Mon, 2/9/09, Jerry Voth <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><jjvoth@mtelco.net></span></i></span></b>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: Jerry Voth
<jjvoth@mtelco.net><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem<br>
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 2:39 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I've been lurking for a long time and after reading all the things that one <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>needs to do to successfully fly electric, it makes one wonder how things <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>would be if electrics were the norm from the beginning of powered R/C <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>models. It might go like this;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hey guys, I just bought this little IC engine and I tried it on one of my <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Pattern models and it works really well. "Look what it will do;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>1. It has just as much power as our electric motors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>2. The only batteries you need are for the flight pack, glow igniter and the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>electric starter if you don't like to flip by hand.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>3. All you have to do is pump fuel into the tank, spin the engine with the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>starter and fly.The tail gets a little oily, but what the heck, it's fairly<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>easy to clean up.(Switching the radio on first is a given.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>4. You don't have to haul a generator or an extra car battery around to <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>charge motor batteries."<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Please don't take this the wrong way. It is tongue in cheek and just an <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>observation. I also have too much time on my hands these days.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>JJV<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot@sc.rr.com><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: "'General pattern discussion'"<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:50 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>A 100 ohm resistor may be enough to charge the caps and make the ESC<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> "active". Bad idea...<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Jay Marshall<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> -----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Putte<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:14 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> To: General pattern discussion<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Plug/Receptacle Problem<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Good. I will try it. What wattage 100 ohm resistor? Let's see,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> doesn't sustained power equal voltage squared, divided by the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> resistance? If so, 42 squared, divided by 100 is 17.64 watts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> That's probably overkill, since the current surge is transitory. How<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> about a 100 ohm, 10 watt resistor?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Just thought of something: With the 100 ohm resistor across the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> arming plug receptacle, won't the ESC be on whenever the batteries<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> are plugged into the circuit?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> BTW, what about Castle Creation's statement that the "spark is<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>your<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> friend'?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Ron<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 11:55 AM, James Oddino wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Put a 100 ohm resistor across the arming plug receptacle. Then the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> capacitors in the ESC will charge without a spark as you connect<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> the batteries. When you connect the arming plug, no spark.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Ron Van Putte wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> I have a problem which I am sure many other E-powered airplane<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> owners have that I'd like to solve. I use an arming plug to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> connect the two 5S Lipo packs to the ESC. On initial contact of<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> the arming plug with the receptacle, there's a big spark<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>thrown.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> Eventually the contacts on the arming plug and receptacle get<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> burned to the point where the electrical contact is very bad.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> Yesterday I had to land my airplane deadstick because (I think)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> the ESC saw what it thought was low voltage out of the battery<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> that was actually due to the burned arming plug/receptacle<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> contacts. BTW, I am using high-amp Anderson Power Pole<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> connectors, which are probably more susceptible to having the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> contacts burned than would Deans Ultra connectors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> I have thought about putting a BIG capacitor in parallel with the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> arming plug, that would damp the initial current surge which<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> causes the spark. The capacitor could be removed before flight.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> However, I'm wondering if there's a more elegant solution.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>>> Ron Van Putte<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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