[NSRCA-discussion] WC

[mike mueller]

 OK I think I got the drift from some who stated the US team would have done better in the world standings if the finals results were used. In the past I think the wolrd team standings only used the prelimes.Correct?
 Also this year didn't they make a change to when and how the team standings will be determined? Thanks again guys, Mike

--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC
> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 7:58 PM
> Mike,
> 
> In addition to what Tony F said....
> 
> I think one of the biggest considerations for the Prelims
> is that the judges
> need to maintain a standard for 4 days, let alone
> variations in weather
> conditions which can substantially affect maneuver
> quality.  I'd not expect
> the prelims to be very accurate in terms of exact pilot
> placement -
> especially when you consider the P-09 is relatively easy,
> and variables like
> judging fatigue and weather are going to have more effect
> on the scores.
> 
> The judging should be more accurate for the semi's as all
> pilots will be
> seen over a much shorter interval, and the F-09 has enough
> difficulty that
> the maneuver quality will start to degrade pretty quickly
> outside the top
> group.
> 
> For the finals, all pilots are seen over a relatively very
> short interval
> (good thing), and the unknowns are certainly a different
> animal for the
> pilots.  Some pilots certainly aren't as well suited
> for unknowns as knowns
> - whether that is mindset or practice regimen, who
> knows.  I can't say for
> other countries, but I know most of the top F3A guys in the
> US spend as much
> time practicing unknowns as the knowns.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of mike mueller
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:58 PM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC
> 
>  Very good stuff Dave. Question? Is there a carry over from
> the Prelims to
> the Semi finals? Also is it fair to say that the Semi's and
> then the finals
> seperate the men from the boys? I have heard that some of
> the top guys
> excell at the semi's but suffer when the harder manuevers
> come into play.
> Just wondering if anyone else has heard of this. Mike
> Mueller
> 
> --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net>
> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] WC
> > To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 12:52 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
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> > Top 5 in each
> > group thus far….. 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > SOMENZINI      
> >  USA      978.8   
> > 484.8   
> > 0         
> > 0         
> > 494 
> > 
> > MAYR  
> >            
> > AUT      920.6   
> > 441.8   
> > 0         
> > 0         
> > 478.8 
> > 
> > NORTHEAST    
> > CAN     897.6   
> > 429.6   
> > 0         
> > 0         
> > 468 
> > 
> > DANKSAGMUL
> > AUT      883.6   
> > 421.2   
> > 0         
> > 0         
> > 462.4 
> > 
> > FREMMING      
> > NOR     871.8   
> > 415.4   
> > 0         
> > 0         
> > 456.4 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > BERND
> > GER     1422.6 
> > 452.8   
> > 496      
> > 473.8    0 
> > 
> > SUZUKI
> > JPN      1406.6 
> > 453.8    485.2   
> > 467.6    0 
> > 
> > WICKIZER        
> >  USA      1331.4 
> > 418      
> > 470.4   
> > 443       0 
> > 
> > JUN
> > ZHANG     
> > CHN     1331    
> > 404.4    461.8   
> > 464.8    0 
> > 
> > BURBAUD       
> > FRA      1322.4 
> > 416.8    455.2   
> > 450.4    0 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > PAYSANT -
> > LE  FRA      1014.2 
> > 504.2   
> > 510      
> > 0         
> > 0 
> > 
> > SILVESTRI       
> > ITA      
> > 974.2   
> > 469      
> > 505.2   
> > 0         
> > 0 
> > 
> > ONDA  
> >            
> > JPN      972.2   
> > 469      
> > 503.2   
> > 0         
> > 0 
> > 
> > SHULMAN       
> >  USA      949.2   
> > 459.6    489.6   
> > 0         
> > 0 
> > 
> > PAYSANT - LE 
> > FRA      916.4   
> > 461.4   
> > 455      
> > 0         
> > 0 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > AKIBA 
> >            
> > JPN      1448.6 
> > 0         
> > 487      
> > 490.4    471.2 
> > 
> > JESKY 
> >            
> >  USA      1424.2 
> > 0         
> > 474.4   
> > 470      
> > 479.8 
> > 
> > ZEINER
> > AUT     
> > 1394    
> > 0         
> > 463      
> > 480.2    450.8 
> > 
> > ROMBAUT       
> > ESP     1344.2 
> > 0         
> > 444.8    448.4   
> > 451 
> > 
> > BUTUZOV        
> > RUS     1329.8 
> > 0         
> > 432      
> > 437.6    460.2 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > FRA, JPN, AUS,
> > and
> >  USA look to be in contention for
> > Gold. 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > For the top guys
> > in each group - 
> > 
> > - QQ has 3
> > potential 1000s 
> > 
> > - Bernd has 1
> > potential 1000 
> > 
> > - CPLR has 4
> > potential 1000s 
> > 
> > - Akiba has 2
> > potential 1000s 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > http://www.fpam.pt/WCF3A09/Classifications/scores.php
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > GO
> > USA!!!! 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dave 
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