[NSRCA-discussion] FAT Rudder

[Wayne Galligan]

You would be surprised at how much of Marks design intervention was derived 
by Nats aero theories.  Mark has incorporated it into a more current style 
of airplane...  I just wish I had time to build one of Marks Pentathlon's.

Wayne Galligan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mike mueller" <mups1953 at yahoo.com>
To: "Ken Thompson" <KTHOMPSON56 at satx.rr.com>; "General pattern discussion" 
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAT Rudder


One designer and builder that pushes the envelope is Mark Hunt. Take a look 
at his stuff and you will see true innovation and creativity. I too love 
when guys are trying new things to refine an already refined airframe. Mike

--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Ken Thompson <KTHOMPSON56 at satx.rr.com> wrote:

> From: Ken Thompson <KTHOMPSON56 at satx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAT Rudder
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 11:58 PM
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> The only issue as I see it, and all that know me are
> 100% sure I'm
> certainly no expert, is that "gadgets" fix
> certain issues...no doubt about
> that...the big thing is that the gadgets don't cause an
> issue with the rest of
> the flight envelope...I love all the new things builders
> and designers are
> coming up with, it really keeps things interesting...I
> can't wait to hear about
> all the new stuff that comes from the worlds!!!
>
> Ken
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>   ----- Original Message
> ----- 
>   From:
>   Bob Richards
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>   To: General
> pattern discussion
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>   Sent: Sunday, August
> 23, 2009 9:20
>   PM
>   Subject: Re:
> [NSRCA-discussion] FAT
>   Rudder
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>         Competition breeds experimentation.
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>         Think back when Hanno Prettner showed up with
> an anhedral stab.
>         Pretty soon most of the designs had it. I remember
> hearing people say
>         that pattern planes would only fly well with
> anhedral stabs.
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>         Retracts. I made the comment at the '95
> Nats that it no longer made
>         sense to have retracts on pattern planes. One
> fellow NSRCA board member
>         told me in no uncertain terms that fixed gear would
> completely screw up
>         the "force arrangement" of a pattern
> plane. Looks like one of us was
>         right.
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>         Airbrakes (another Hanno Prettner experiment).
> Next year, lots of
>         planes had airbrakes.
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>         Variable CG. In-flight variable pitch props.
> In-flight mixture
>         controls. Slow-roll buttons. Variable sweep wings.
> Winglets on the top
>         of a fuselage. Side force generators (yes, tried
> many years ago in
>         pattern - long before 3D ever existed).
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>         IMHO, simplicity wins most of the time.
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>         Bob R.
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> --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Phil Spelt
>         <chuenkan at comcast.net> wrote:
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>           All just
> further proof that
>           aerobatics competition breeds innovation!
>         :-$
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