[NSRCA-discussion] New Vehicle

[Phil Spelt]

Content, Schmontent -- where do the profits, and the taxes on them, 
go???  Japan or Korea...or Germany, or China, etc.  GM and Ford 
profits got to "Detroit" and corporate taxes to Washington and Ann 
Arbor.   Don't know what's going to happen to any "profits" from Chrysler.

I am also not happy about the CFC U.S. tax dollars going to Toyota 
and Honda -- but what do *I* know???

At 11:12 AM 8/15/2009, you wrote:

>An automotive assembly plant does not add much content to a car, all 
>the money is in the components and all the car manufacturers chase 
>the components to the lowest cost producer, which right now is 
>places like china, india and brazil. We get our blocks from brazil, 
>cranks from India and push rods and valves from China. I started at 
>GM in '73 and watched them go from the southern strategy where they 
>built components down south (non union) and then things got cheaper 
>in Mexico so we shut down plants in SC to move to mexico. THen it 
>became even more global with Brazil getting into the act, then 
>finally india and china. I currently work for a diesel engine mfg 
>and we get 19Liter blocks from brazil and 30L blocks from Germany to 
>be machined here inthe US. THe Japanese car companies brought their 
>supply base over  here (NTN, Aisen, etc) when they set up assembly 
>plants, so it wouldn't surprise me that they have cars with more US 
>content than GM or Ford.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot at sc.rr.com>
>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 10:25:19 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Vehicle
>
>There was an article published recently concerning the top 10 
>USA  content automobiles. Toyota was three of them as I recall.
>
>
>Jay Marshall
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bob Richards
>Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:35 PM
>To: General pattern discussion
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Vehicle
>
>My wife and I bought a Honda Element a few years ago (2004) and I 
>remember looking at the information about where it was built. It was 
>something like 65% components from North America. The CRV, which had 
>the same drive train and engine, was 65% Asia or Japan (don't remember).
>
>I did some EMC testing for a manufacturer that made components for 
>Ford. Some of their stuff was made here, some in China, some in 
>Europe. They design a component that may be used in several, if not 
>all, models, and might be made anywhere in the world.
>
>It wasn't too long ago that the ONLY manufacturer that could legally 
>say their cars were 100% made in the USA was Saturn, but I'll bet 
>that has changed, too.
>
>Bob R.
>
>
>--- On Fri, 8/14/09, mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Phil don't you think that the nations attached to most cars is kind 
>of muddled? I mean Honda, Nissan and Toyota make a lot of cars here 
>in the US employing a lot of Americans. Ford makes a lot of their 
>cars in Mexico and Canada and South America. Stock holders own car 
>company's up until recently with the Chrysler/ GM debacle. Stock 
>holders from Asia own stock in American companies and American's own 
>stock in Toyota and Honda. Chrysler is now owned by Fiat an Italian 
>company. Mazda is 40% owned by Ford and the list goes on and on. I'm 
>not usre what makes sense anymore. Mike
>
>
>
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