[NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question

Rex trexlesh at msn.com
Mon Apr 6 13:53:50 AKDT 2009


I always thought there was something sneaky about you!
 
> From: patternpilot at verizon.net
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:27:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question
> 
> I once was at a contest flying Masters in which I found myself right side up
> when I should have been inverted. We were flying into the sun so I pulled
> vertical right into the suns path, did the required maneuver and when I
> reached the sun I rolled and pushed out of the maneuver. I was then in the
> right position for the next maneuver. A round later I was calling for Frank
> Capone and he did the same thing. So I whispered to him to pull into the sun
> and roll right when he could not see it. Neither one of us got caught. Was
> it cheating? Perhaps, but I like to call it creative flying. It was not
> planned, so really not cheating. I'm sure everyone has done a maneuver
> incorrectly and was not caught by the judges. Did you tell them to zero it?
> Probably not. 
> 
> Dennis 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:13 AM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question
> 
> It's only cheating if you get caught.
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hochhalter wrote:
> 
> > Ron, that is cheating, you should immediately point out to the 
> > judges that you lead the snap in order to preserve the geometry of 
> > the maneuver.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Ronald Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:34 PM
> > To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question
> >
> >> What you can try is easing some yaw in by putting in a bit of 
> >> left rudder just before entering the snap (the judges probably 
> >> won't even notice).
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Keith Black wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm having trouble with the Masters Avalanche and wanted to see 
> >>> if anyone had any suggestions or was experiencing the same problem.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Entering the maneuver left to right then pushing the half loop 
> >>> to the snap, If I attempt a positive snap to the right (which 
> >>> rotates the plane away from the flight line) the nose comes 
> >>> around nicely to complete the arch of the loop, but ends 
> >>> pointing about 20 degrees away from the flight line. If I stay 
> >>> on the rudder after the snap I can immediately put the plane 
> >>> back in line, but it's quite ugly and obvious rather than 
> >>> smoothly exiting the snap parallel to the flight line. I've 
> >>> tried using less rudder, but have not been able to get that to 
> >>> work any better.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've also tried an outside snap but to me this looks terrible 
> >>> and the nose is elevated on exit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The plane is a Beryll.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Keith Black
> >>>
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