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I always thought there was something sneaky about you!<BR> <BR>> From: patternpilot@verizon.net<BR>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:27:37 -0700<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question<BR>> <BR>> I once was at a contest flying Masters in which I found myself right side up<BR>> when I should have been inverted. We were flying into the sun so I pulled<BR>> vertical right into the suns path, did the required maneuver and when I<BR>> reached the sun I rolled and pushed out of the maneuver. I was then in the<BR>> right position for the next maneuver. A round later I was calling for Frank<BR>> Capone and he did the same thing. So I whispered to him to pull into the sun<BR>> and roll right when he could not see it. Neither one of us got caught. Was<BR>> it cheating? Perhaps, but I like to call it creative flying. It was not<BR>> planned, so really not cheating. I'm sure everyone has done a maneuver<BR>> incorrectly and was not caught by the judges. Did you tell them to zero it?<BR>> Probably not. <BR>> <BR>> Dennis <BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte<BR>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:13 AM<BR>> To: General pattern discussion<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question<BR>> <BR>> It's only cheating if you get caught.<BR>> <BR>> Ron<BR>> <BR>> On Apr 5, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hochhalter wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Ron, that is cheating, you should immediately point out to the <BR>> > judges that you lead the snap in order to preserve the geometry of <BR>> > the maneuver.<BR>> ><BR>> > --------------------------------------------------<BR>> > From: "Ronald Van Putte" <vanputte@cox.net><BR>> > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:34 PM<BR>> > To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters Avalanche question<BR>> ><BR>> >> What you can try is easing some yaw in by putting in a bit of <BR>> >> left rudder just before entering the snap (the judges probably <BR>> >> won't even notice).<BR>> >><BR>> >> Ron<BR>> >><BR>> >> On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Keith Black wrote:<BR>> >><BR>> >>> I'm having trouble with the Masters Avalanche and wanted to see <BR>> >>> if anyone had any suggestions or was experiencing the same problem.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Entering the maneuver left to right then pushing the half loop <BR>> >>> to the snap, If I attempt a positive snap to the right (which <BR>> >>> rotates the plane away from the flight line) the nose comes <BR>> >>> around nicely to complete the arch of the loop, but ends <BR>> >>> pointing about 20 degrees away from the flight line. If I stay <BR>> >>> on the rudder after the snap I can immediately put the plane <BR>> >>> back in line, but it's quite ugly and obvious rather than <BR>> >>> smoothly exiting the snap parallel to the flight line. I've <BR>> >>> tried using less rudder, but have not been able to get that to <BR>> >>> work any better.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> I've also tried an outside snap but to me this looks terrible <BR>> >>> and the nose is elevated on exit.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> The plane is a Beryll.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Thanks,<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> Keith Black<BR>> >>><BR>> >>> _______________________________________________<BR>> >>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> >>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> >>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> >><BR>> >> _______________________________________________<BR>> >> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> >> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> >> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR></body>
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