[NSRCA-discussion] FW: Castle Creations, was Re: E-Question HXT motors

Dave DaveL322 at comcast.net
Fri Sep 26 17:53:45 AKDT 2008


Absolutely!!!  When I started with electric, Castle was one of the first
companies I purchased from, and was very happy to become sponsored with
Castle.  So far as Patrick del Castillo, he not only has his name on his
product, but actively contributes:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=813861

Posts 10, 15, and 26 are some good ones - and give quite a bit of insight
into "getting what you pay for".

Regards,

Dave Lockhart
Team Castle



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Hmmmm!! Castillo---Castle....It makes perfect sense to me. I now 
understand why Dave Lockhart and Dean Pappas have been so complimentary 
of these controllers. The man has his name on his product. That's old 
time quality

MattK

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From: Richard Strickland <pamrich47 at hotmail.com>
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And they don't charge an arm and a leg to fix 'em--unlike the Hacker 
with one tiny
transitor/ic out of it and it "..can't be repaired.."  BTW, anyone know 
anyone who
CAN repair them?
 
RS





Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:44:52 -0700
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HXT motors






 I second Bob's enthusiasm towards Castle. It's an American product 
that we should be proud of. They are bullet proof controllers. Mike

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Bob Kane &lt;getterflash at yahoo.com&gt; wrote:

From: Bob Kane &lt;getterflash at yahoo.com&gt;
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Castle Creations, was Re: E-Question HXT 
motors
To: "General pattern discussion" 
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Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 1:35 PM





Castle Creations was founded and is run by Patrick del Castillo . . . . 
. . .    not 
only do they have great products and support, they are 
located right here in the US.   I have been using their products for 
many years and have never been let down.

 Bob Kane
getterflash at yahoo.com




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Hey Anthony,
 
I am using the Castle Creations HV85 and a mix of Tanic and Vampower 
batteries. I haven't used a Jeti, but I'm sure it would do well also. 
My packs are between 4500-5000 mah flying the masters pattern.
 
Emory.
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Emory,
What ESC and battery did you use with that. Is the Jeti spin 99 still 
the right choice for that motor?

Thanks for the info.
--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Emory Schroeter &lt;schroetere at bellsouth.net&gt; 
wrote:

From: Emory Schroeter &lt;schroetere at bellsouth.net&gt;
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] E-Question HXT motors
To: "General pattern discussion" 
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Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:08 AM


Hey Anthony,


 From my experience, I was amazed at how well the HXT motor performed. I 
don't remember the stats exactly, but they were very close t
o the 
performance I was seeing with the AXI. I believe it was slightly less 
efficient (maybe 2 more amps drawn) and had about 200 less RPM than the 
AXI. Like someone mentioned, I kept waiting for it to fail, but it 
didn't. I had well over 100 flights on it when I decided to plant the 
airplane in the ground. Based on my experience with it, I 
wouldn't hesitate to try one again in the future. I mostly used the APC 
20x15 prop.


Emory Schroeter.





On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:30 PM, Anthony Romano wrote:

Hi Mike,
Are you sure on that prop size?





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Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:59:16 -0400
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Ok, some in depth answers.
 
We did in fact test this motor last season on a Black Magic V2, flying 
masters. We used the HXT 63-64B 230kv motor. We used a CC HV85 
controller, Tanic and vampower packs.
 
Power is certainly not a problem for this motor. It is fairly 
comparable to the AXI. 2700 watts, 82 amps, 6200 RPM on an APC 20x14. 
the motor never got over 110 degrees.
 
Longevity: we got well over 100 flights on it before the plane was 
lost, no problems whatsoever. This was using Esprit stand off mounts as 
well, o nose mounting.
 
No can issues, nothing, it just delivered. your results may va
ry of 
course. These are "cheap" chinese motors and you do not have the 
support structure in place like the name brands. but considering you 
can buy almost 4 of them for the price of one AXI, it's pretty 
interesting.
 
I've run a lot of these chinese motors and maybe I'm just lucky, but I 
just don't have problems. I keep hearing about problems with darned 
near everything, including name brand stuff, and the only issue we've 
run into yet was a very early bearing failure with an AXI...that's all. 
Ever.
 
I have yet to install one of these on a VF3, and wonder about it 
because by it's very nature you will have to use more power to fly it. 
I realize 82 amps is a lot, but the packs never got warm, nor did the 
speed control or motor, so who knows.
 
in short, if this is your first forray into electrics of this size, you 
would probably be better off with the AXI just from the standpoint of 
support. But so far I can't find a thing wrong with this motor, or else 
I am just that lucky (and THAT is highly unlikely, trust me!)
 
-Mike
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Abdullah
To: General pattern discussion
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:04 PM
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] E-Question HXT motors






As I am doing my research into the world of electric pattern I have 
come across the HXT line of electric motors. It a
ppears that the HXT 
63-64 B230 is a fraction of the cost of the comparable AXI motor ($60 
vs.$200+) with very similar performance numbers, physical dimensions, 
etc. In fact, according to the info I saw it is even 12 grams lighter.
 
Being a realist I have to ask the question; what's the catch? Will it 
burn out after three flights, does it run excessively hot, does it 
smell like bacon? I don't get it. Is it just a cheap Chinese knock off, 
a very good value, or both? What I really want to know is, is the motor 
viable for F3A pattern?
 
I appreciate any information you guys can provide, particularly from 
those who have used them or seen them run.
 
Thanks a bunch
Anthony




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