[NSRCA-discussion] Why are fire engines red? Was SlideRules....was Art Wagner

Del drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
Tue Oct 14 08:14:58 AKDT 2008


please accept as <TIC> as is being sent...Not directected at anyone...    "No wonder things fall down and go boom.."    
 
    Del 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Oddino 
  To: General pattern discussion 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Why are fire engines red? Was SlideRules....was Art Wagner


  Fire engines are red because they have 8 wheels and 4 people ride in them. 8 and 4 is 12. Twelve inches is a foot. A foot is a ruler. Queen Elizabeth was a ruler. Queen Elizabeth was  a ship that sailed the seas. Fish swim in the sea. Fish have fins. The Finns faught the Russians. The Russians are reds. Fire engines are always rushin', so they must be red.


  I think I paid $26 for my high end slide rule in 1951.  I wouldn't buy a calculator until they got down to $100 and that turned out to be a TI.  But the the best and the one I still have is the HP 15C and yes it had RPN.  I'm thinking of buying the app for it for my iPhone, but I'm having a hard time trying to justify it as I don't do much with complex numbers anymore.


  Jim









  On Oct 13, 2008, at 11:24 PM, rcmaster199 at aol.com wrote:


    Geez Oddino....was that a trick (or treat) answer?? Thot that QE was a boat. Now I'm really confused

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Troy Newman <troy at troynewman.net>
    To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
    Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 8:04 pm
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Slide Rules....was Art Wagner

    Matt,

     

    RPN is the only way to go.

     

    I had the opportunity to watch my boss try and figure out my
    calculator, HP-48. I left it on my desk and he just grabbed it for some quick calculations.
    He’s not an engineer. His comment was no wonder I can’t get things
    done on time. I have to go back to the Greeks for direction on how to add 2+2

     

    Not really the case, but RPN was something he didn’t have
    experience with. So I taught him how to use it and loaned him my HP-28 and he now
    swears by it. There is nothing better than having a Stack to work with.

     

    By the way Art doesn’t do a Slide rule. That is too
    advanced, Abacus is right up Arts’ alley that way you can count the beads
    to make sure in case you forget.

     

    Troy

     





    From:
    nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
    [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of James
    Oddino

    Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:50 PM

    To: General pattern discussion

    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Slide Rules....was
    Art Wagner





     

    Queen Elisabeth was a ruler.



     





     





    On Oct 13, 2008, at 11:50 AM, rcmaster199 at aol.com wrote:













    If you hung your calculator by your belt, you were considered a
    nerd. I remember some of the kids would use that as bragging tool....go figure.
    Also the strange arguments that would ensue over whether straight up
    calculations (TI) or reverse polish notation calculation (HP) was better method





     





    My circular slide ruler was tucked away safely in my pocket, but I
    must admit that later in my first year, I had to go to dark side too....just
    couldn't compete with getting the decimals in the right place without
    thinking. I'm with Bob on that one....I still do the magnitude of the calculation
    in my head too.





     





    BTW, is it a "Slider Rule" or a "Slide
    Ruler"?? I always thought it was a Slide Ruler, or, in my case, neither,
    since it was circular.





     





    Another BTW, if you are less than, say, 45 years old, you probably
    don't have a clue what's all the hubbub about.





     





     



    -----Original Message-----

    From: Bob Richards &lt;bob at toprudder.com&gt;

    To: General patter
    n discussion &lt;nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org&gt;

    Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:45 pm

    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Art Wagner





    My physics class in high school was the last year they used slide
    rules (did not allo w calculators). One thing that I learned, that I still do
    to this day, is to try and have an idea of at least the magnitude of the answer
    in my head. You had to keep track of the decimal place when using a slide
    rule.





     





    Bob R.









    Bob Kane &lt;getterflash at yahoo.com&gt; wrote:







    LOL,  I remember that
    happening in my classes also.  I can remember being nervous and having
    difficulty keying numbers.  The good ol' days.



     



    Bob Kane

    getterflash at yahoo.com



     





     



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    From: Jay Marshall &lt;lightfoot at sc.rr.com&gt;

    To: General pattern discussion &lt;nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org&gt;

    Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:21:50 AM

    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Art Wagner





    Remember those exams where all was quiet, then there was a
    “Oh s&%$#, my battery died”? We used to come early to get next
    to the wall socket!





    &nb sp;







    Jay Marshall







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    Sent: Monday, October 13,
    2008 10:15 AM

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    discussion

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    I was in the generation that
    changed from slider rule to HP-35.  That was a huge change in the
    engineering school.  The tests were redesigned to account for the time
    savings when using calculators.   Very good memories.  That was
    early 70's.









     









    --

    Vicente "Vince" Bortone









     









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    From: "Wayne Galligan" &lt;wgalligan at att.net&gt;







    Don't say that to Art.











    ----- Original Message -----









    From: vicenterc at comcast.net









    To: General pattern discussion









    Sent: Monday,
    October 13, 2008 7:01 AM









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    Only smart people use slider rule.











     









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    Vicente "Vince" Bortone









     









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    From: "Wayne Galligan" &lt;wgalligan at att.net&gt;







    Art does not own a computer.   He uses a slider rule.











    ----- Original Message -----









    From: Steve Ford









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    Sent: Sunday,
    October 12, 2008 4:09 PM









    Subject: [NSRCA-discussion]
    Art Wagner









     









    Looking for Art Wagner's email or phone number.









    Email me at steveandlaurel at valornet.com









     









    Thanks,









    Steve Ford













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