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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>please accept as <TIC> as is
being sent...Not directected at anyone... "No wonder things fall
down and go boom.." </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> Del </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=joddino@socal.rr.com href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com">James
Oddino</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:27
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Why are
fire engines red? Was SlideRules....was Art Wagner</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Arial>Fire engines are red
because they have 8 wheels and 4 people ride in them. 8 and 4 is 12. Twelve
inches is a foot. A foot is a ruler. Queen Elizabeth was a ruler. Queen
Elizabeth was a ship that sailed the seas. Fish swim in the sea. Fish
have fins. The Finns faught the Russians. The Russians are reds. Fire engines
are always rushin', so they must be red.</FONT>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Arial>I think I paid $26 for my high
end slide rule in 1951. I wouldn't buy a calculator until they got down
to $100 and that turned out to be a TI. But the the best and the one I
still have is the HP 15C and yes it had RPN. I'm thinking of buying the
app for it for my iPhone, but I'm having a hard time trying to justify it as I
don't do much with complex numbers anymore.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Arial>Jim<BR></FONT>
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<DIV>On Oct 13, 2008, at 11:24 PM, <A
href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A> wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV>Geez Oddino....was that a trick (or treat) answer?? Thot that QE was a
boat. Now I'm really confused<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
Troy Newman <<A
href="mailto:troy@troynewman.net">troy@troynewman.net</A>><BR>To: General
pattern discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>Sent:
Mon, 13 Oct 2008 8:04 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Slide
Rules....was Art Wagner<BR><BR>Matt,<BR><BR> <BR><BR>RPN is the only
way to go.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>I had the opportunity to watch my boss try
and figure out my<BR>calculator, HP-48. I left it on my desk and he just
grabbed it for some quick calculations.<BR>He’s not an engineer. His comment
was no wonder I can’t get things<BR>done on time. I have to go back to the
Greeks for direction on how to add 2+2<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Not really the
case, but RPN was something he didn’t have<BR>experience with. So I taught
him how to use it and loaned him my HP-28 and he now<BR>swears by it. There
is nothing better than having a Stack to work with.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>By
the way Art doesn’t do a Slide rule. That is too<BR>advanced, Abacus is
right up Arts’ alley that way you can count the beads<BR>to make sure in
case you
forget.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>Troy<BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>From:<BR><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
On Behalf Of James<BR>Oddino<BR><BR>Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:50
PM<BR><BR>To: General pattern discussion<BR><BR>Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Slide Rules....was<BR>Art
Wagner<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR>Queen Elisabeth was a
ruler.<BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On
Oct 13, 2008, at 11:50 AM, rcmaster199@aol.com
wrote:<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>If you hung
your calculator by your belt, you were considered a<BR>nerd. I remember some
of the kids would use that as bragging tool....go figure.<BR>Also the
strange arguments that would ensue over whether straight up<BR>calculations
(TI) or reverse polish notation calculation (HP) was better
method<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>My circular
slide ruler was tucked away safely in my pocket, but I<BR>must admit that
later in my first year, I had to go to dark side too....just<BR>couldn't
compete with getting the decimals in the right
place without<BR>thinking. I'm with Bob on that one....I still do
the magnitude of the calculation<BR>in my head
too.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>BTW, is it a
"Slider Rule" or a "Slide<BR>Ruler"?? I always thought it was a Slide Ruler,
or, in my case, neither,<BR>since it was
circular.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Another BTW,
if you are less than, say, 45 years old, you probably<BR>don't have a clue
what's all the hubbub
about.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR><BR>From: Bob Richards
&lt;bob@toprudder.com&gt;<BR><BR>To: General patter<BR>n discussion
&lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<BR><BR>Sent: Mon, 13 Oct
2008 12:45 pm<BR><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Art
Wagner<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>My physics class in high school was the last
year they used slide<BR>rules (did not allo w calculators). One thing that I
learned, that I still do<BR>to this day, is to try and have an idea of at
least the magnitude of the answer<BR>in my head. You had to keep track
of the decimal place when using a
slide<BR>rule.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Bob
R.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Bob Kane
&lt;getterflash@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>LOL,
I remember that<BR>happening in my classes also. I can remember being
nervous and having<BR>difficulty keying numbers. The good ol'
days.<BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR>Bob
Kane<BR><BR>getterflash@yahoo.com<BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR>-----<BR>Original
Message ----<BR><BR>From: Jay Marshall
&lt;lightfoot@sc.rr.com&gt;<BR><BR>To: General pattern discussion
&lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<BR><BR>Sent: Monday,
October 13, 2008 11:21:50 AM<BR><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Art
Wagner<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Remember those exams where all was quiet, then
there was a<BR>“Oh s&%$#, my battery died”? We used to come early to get
next<BR>to the wall socket!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>&nb
sp;<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Jay Marshall<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>---Original
Message-----<BR><BR>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-b<BR>ounces@lists.nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of vicenterc@comcast.net<BR><BR>Sent: Monday, October
13,<BR>2008 10:15 AM<BR><BR>To: General
pattern<BR>discussion<BR><BR>Subject: Re:<BR>[NSRCA-discussion] Art
Wagner<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>I was in
the generation that<BR>changed from slider rule to HP-35. That was a
huge change in the<BR>engineering school. The tests were redesigned to
account for the time<BR>savings when using calculators. Very
good memories. That was<BR>early
70's.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR><BR>Vicente
"Vince"
Bortone<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--------------
Original message -------------- <BR><BR>From: "Wayne Galligan"
&lt;wgalligan@att.net&gt;<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Don't say
that to Art.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original
Message
-----<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>From: vicenterc@comcast.net<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>To: General
pattern
discussion<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Sent: Monday,<BR>October
13, 2008 7:01
AM<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Subject: Re:<BR>[NSRCA-discussion]
Art
Wagner<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Only
smart people use slider
rule.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR><BR>Vicente
"Vince"
Bortone<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--------------
Original message<BR>-------------- <BR><BR>From: "Wayne Galligan"
&lt;wgalligan@att.net&gt;<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Art does
not own a computer. He uses a slider
rule.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>From: Steve
Ford<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>To: NSRCS
Board<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Sent: Sunday,<BR>October
12, 2008 4:09
PM<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion]<BR>Art
Wagner<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Looking
for Art Wagner's email or phone
number.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Email me
at steveandlaurel@valornet.com<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Steve
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